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pmc

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Arabs are now running Wagner and Russian military confirmed, truly breaking news! No wonder there were so many shortcomings then, Arab militaries are hilariously inept.
I said Arabs dont want associate themselves with Wagner but Wagner operates in Arab world. it is on both sides of Sudan conflict.
I am sure you have lived in desert heat to sustain a prolong conflict.
One day they will be playing Golf with Trump, Next day with De Santis and next day watching Foot Ball among people in Europe. You have to study them know what is real.

 

xypher

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Prigozhin in his latest interview statement:

Prigozhin declares the figures of losses of the AFU 50,000 irretrievable (during the entire battle of Bakhmut).
They practically coincide with the calculations of the War Tears project, which, according to its methodology, gave 55,000 AFU losses, based on the calculation of the established losses of the AFU units noted in Artemovsk and regional obituaries.

Wagner's losses amounted to up to 20% of the total killed and up to 20% wounded.

At the peak, the number of PMCs "Wagner" reached up to 50 000, according to Prigozhin.

The AFU group defending Artemovsk numbered up to 82 000 people. (which coincides with the estimates that estimated the AFU grouping in the Artemovsk area was at 75-85 000 people).

Prigozhin main statements from the interview:

▪️We fought in Bakhmut against superior forces, destroyed about 50,000 AFU military and wounded up to 70,000

▪️The Wagner PMCs had 3.2 times fewer dead than the AFU, and about 2 times fewer wounded.

▪️The PMCs in Artemovsk had 50,000 people at the best moments, and the AFU had 82,000, and the ratio for the assault should be 3 to 1 for the stormers.

▪️ During the operation, I selected 50,000 prisoners, 20% of them died, another 20% were injured.

The goal of Artemovsk was not Artemovsk itself, but the "Bakhmut meat grinder". And in Artemovsk, we destroyed everyone we were supposed to destroy, completed the task.

▪️The task was completed due to the highest level of organization.

▪️ And we have our own: planes, helicopters, air defense, artillery, MLRS, reconnaissance and even our own satellite reconnaissance.
That's right. Does not change my points though because these things were also said by Prigozhin. On the war:
What did we do? We came in rudely and walked all over Ukraine in search of nazis. While searching for nazis, we shook up everyone we could. Came to Kiev, then - saying this directly - shat our pants and retreated. Next, Kherson - shat our pants and retreated.
On the demilitarization:
If they had 500 tanks at the start of the operation, now they have 5000 tanks. If they had 20k people capable of fighting, they now have 400k. How did we demilitarize Ukraine? Turns out, we God knows how militarized it instead.
On Russian and Ukrainian militaries:
PMC Wagner is the best military in the world right now. Sure, out of political correctness, I should say that Russian army is the second best but I think that currently the Ukrainian army is one of the strongest. They have good organization, good training, good intelligence, they have all sorts of equipment.
Lashing out at Shoigu:
Shoigu's son-in-law is walking and shaking his buttcheeks [in UAE], while his daughter is opening up Kronstadt forts. Did you earn money for these forts? Is it your own money you are spending on them? Spend them on fucking ammunition!
The main problems are Shoigu and Gerasimov. Their decision blocked everything despite the President saying that we have ammunition ... My political credo: love the country, listen to Putin, fuck Shoigu, will keep fighting.
On the future:
We are currently in the state where we can lose Russia. That's why we need to impose martial law, announce new waves of mobilization, and place as many people as we can to production of ammunition. We need to stop building new roads, new infrastructure and allocate all the funds to war. Russia needs to live like North Korea for a few years, shut down borders, take their emigrees back and work hard. Only then can we reach some results.
 
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Diaspora

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Can Singapore afford to provide even limited support? It would be an extremely stupid for them to piss off China considering their dependency on Chinese wealth, trade and investments.
Singapore is the tiniest peanut that is the easiest to crack. It cannot afford to piss off literally anybody or anyone from either side. Therefore anything that happens is a lose lose situation.

Singapore only succeeded because this Asian region has had many uninterrupted decades of peace. The best solution from Singapore's view would be no conflict. The 2nd best solution would be to have no one ask it to do anything. Once it is asked to do something, then that is the equivalent of being asked to pick a side. And it is definitely a lose lose situation for a tiny nation to even say anything.
 

Feima

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Can Singapore afford to provide even limited support? It would be an extremely stupid for them to piss off China considering their dependency on Chinese wealth, trade and investments.

Not likely. Nor the full support for "stability operation", which I'm guessing refers be some kind of US-led "peacekeeping" operation after they instigated regime change in some Pacific island nation.
 

baykalov

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The New York Times: "Russian rout is China's worst nightmare. From Beijing’s perspective, “if Russia loses, then the pressure on China will only multiply and become much more severe.”

China and Russia, Targets at G7 Summit, Draw Closer to Fend Off West

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Beijing and Moscow are holding visits this week as alarm grows in China that Western countries backing Ukraine are turning their attention to Asia.

When Russian troops poured into Ukraine over a year ago, many experts foresaw a strategic windfall for China, with the United States distracted again by a war far from Asia. Now, Beijing is increasingly alarmed that the Western bloc backing Ukraine is entrenching itself in China’s neighborhood.

The leaders of the Group of 7 nations last weekend pledged more support for Kyiv and angered Beijing by challenging its claims to the South China Sea, vowing to resist economic coercion, and pressing China on human rights abuses in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong. Days after, Moscow and Beijing are reinforcing their relationship by holding security and trade talks, with Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin of Russia leading a delegation of business tycoons on a visit to China.

The contrast between President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine receiving more arms guarantees from President Biden at the G7 and Mr. Mishustin seeking more economic support for Russia from China’s top leader, Xi Jinping, underscores how the deepening geopolitical divisions have been exacerbated by the war.

“China is ready to double down on its relationship with Russia following the G7 summit because the central theme of that summit comprised not only Russia’s invasion of Ukraine but also China and how the West should deal with it,” said Alexander Korolev, a senior lecturer at the University of New South Wales in Australia, who studies Chinese-Russian relations.

“The summit and Zelensky’s presence at it have marked a more apparent and deeper geopolitical divide between the West on the one hand and China and Russia on the other hand,” he added.

President Biden sought to depict a less fraught atmosphere, predicting that there would be a thaw in relations with Beijing. But to China, the display of unity among the G7 democracies meeting on its doorstep likely plays into Chinese claims that the United States is trying to marshal its allies to provoke a conflict in the region.

As the Communist Party newspaper, Global Times, described it on Monday, the United States is trying to “replicate the ‘Ukraine Crisis’” in the Asia Pacific region. By doing so, the Chinese argument goes, Washington could wage a proxy war against China like it is with Russia, and later justify what would be a nightmare scenario for Beijing: the formation of an Asia-Pacific version of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to contain China’s rise.

The G7 summit was riddled with “uncomfortable optics” for China, said Lyle J. Goldstein, an expert on China at Defense Priorities, a think tank in Washington. Chief among them was the hosting of the event by Japan, a power that China harbors deep-seated historical animosity toward. Chinese state media has lashed out at Tokyo this week, accusing it of doing the “United States’ bidding” and inflating the “China threat” so that it can amend its constitution to build up its military again for the first time since World War II.

Mr. Goldstein said China saw Japan at the G7 as “colluding with the U.S.” to “bring Europe into the Taiwan issue,” a move he likened to “waving a red flag in front of a bull.”

China finds itself in this predicament because its close partner, Russia, defied warnings from the West and invaded Ukraine. Despite the many problems that’s created for China, Beijing has continued to provide economic and diplomatic support for the Kremlin because of a shared desire to weaken U.S. global dominance.

Speaking at a business forum in Shanghai on Tuesday, Mr. Mishustin said Russia would continue fostering relations with China, which remains one of Russia’s only suppliers of technologies like microchips and one of its biggest energy customers.
“We have expanded trade with the world’s rapidly developing economies. These words fully apply to our big friend, China,” Mr. Mishustin said, according to Russian state media, which reported that the two sides discussed expanding cooperation in transportation, agriculture and energy.

Mr. Korolev, the University of New South Wales expert, said the war and Western sanctions have accelerated Russia’s economic reorientation toward Asia. That policy shift, which started more than a decade ago, has been met with concerns in Russia about developing an overreliance on China.

“There are no more reservations,” Mr. Korolev said. “All the political barriers that existed before have now been removed, and Russia is no longer concerned about relying, or even depending, on China for its economic well-being.”

The two countries are also expanding security ties. Chen Wenqing, the head of the Chinese Communist Party’s political and legal affairs committee — which oversees law-and-order issues — embarked on an eight-day visit to Russia on Sunday and held talks with the head of Russia’s Security Council, Nikolai Patrushev, in Moscow.

At a news conference in Beijing on Tuesday, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, Mao Ning, said Sino-Russian “cooperation has strong resilience and large potential” that would not be “disturbed or threatened by any third party,” an apparent reference to the United States.

The tightening bond between the two powers has undercut China’s bid to cast itself as a credible mediator in the war in Ukraine. Last week, China dispatched a special peace envoy to visit European capitals such as Kyiv, Warsaw, Brussels and Moscow. The envoy, Li Hui, has so far failed to achieve a breakthrough as Ukraine has insisted on the full withdrawal of Russian forces from occupied territory. The Kremlin has rejected those terms, and it’s unclear if China would be willing to pressure Russia to relent given Beijing’s desire to preserve good relations with Moscow.

Mr. Li has also been trailed by questions about his neutrality because of his perceived closeness to the Kremlin after serving as a former ambassador to Russia.

“Although this experience in itself does not necessarily mean Li will be biased toward Russia in negotiations, it certainly does not dispel the impression that China wants to make sure its relationship with Russia stays intact following the negotiations,” said Cheng Chen, an expert in Chinese politics at the University at Albany-SUNY.

Mr. Li is scheduled to visit Russia on Friday, according to Russian state media.

While the Chinese government has professed to be neutral over the war, at home, its overarching political narrative about the conflict is laden with sympathy for Russia and a widespread belief that China is the next target if Mr. Putin falls in defeat.

Mr. Goldstein, the expert at Defense Priorities, said that a senior Chinese expert on Russia told him during a talk in Beijing last week that from Beijing’s perspective, “if Russia loses, then the pressure on China will only multiply and become much more severe.”

In many studies by Chinese government and military analysts, Ukraine is depicted as not just the recipient of crucial Western military and intelligence support, but a pawn that the United States has lured into its broader strategy to critically weaken Russia, and ultimately China.

“If the United States and NATO get the last laugh in their war of confrontation with Russia, then they will have finally formed a multilateral military power system of U.S.-Japan-Europe,” Liu Jiangyong, a prominent expert on China’s relations with Japan and other Asian countries at Tsinghua University in Beijing, wrote in a recent study. “Even if China becomes the world’s number one economic power, its international security environment may continue to worsen.”
 

plawolf

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Macron probably doesn't want to go back to France so soon to face all those daily protests. In addition, Macron is looking to sign some mineral exploration and trade agreement with Mongolia for both uranium and rare earth.

A new trend started by Zelensky: western leader perpetual musical chairs, where unpopular western leaders spend all their time in every country except their own. Hell, maybe they will just take turns running each other’s countries while they are at it. Couldn’t do a worse job than what they already are at governing and leading the west to be fair.
 

solarz

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The New York Times: "Russian rout is China's worst nightmare. From Beijing’s perspective, “if Russia loses, then the pressure on China will only multiply and become much more severe.”

China and Russia, Targets at G7 Summit, Draw Closer to Fend Off West

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Is this their new copium angle?

A while back, I had proposed that the best strategy for China might be to engage the US in an arms race in order to bankrupt its economy. Seems like this is exactly what's happening right now.
 
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