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bajingan said:

Hi ansy1968,

Do you think biden is capable of pacifying trump supporters and be a uniter?
Or will he be dragged further to far left ideologies further? Things like pro choice, pro lgbt, pro immigration that maga people hates
Trump might be gone but trumpism is here to stay, trump got more votes than 2016, so its still a force to be reckoned

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@bajingan,

Biden is corporate America candidate, a cup holder, he was put to the race to blunt Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. It will be like a OBAMA administration 2.0. I think In4ser and other American forum member is more familiar about this topic and may help to explain it more . But from the outsize looking in both parties democrats and republican need a lot of soul searching and may lead to a third party as the Republican establishment reestablish it's roots and force out any Trump wanna be and influence from its ranks.

If you study history any regime change or collapse usually came from within their own ranks (without foreign invasion), The CCP came close in 1989 when a faction within the party oppose the decision of the politburo , luckily with DENG stature the party closed rank. Fortunately for the US even though Trump is part of the oligarch, he is never accepted by the establishment elite.

Shocking video of Trump's family partying while watching TVs of the protesters storming Capitol. Even dance to it.

Litebreeze said:

Shocking video of Trump's family partying while watching TVs of the protesters storming Capitol. Even dance to it.

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Feelings like actual fake news, since the imagines on the big screens just look like scenes from the rally before the storming.

The tent setting would also fit, unless anyone here actually seriously believe the entire presidential first family would be casually standing around in a tent somewhere outdoors in D.C. when the actual storming occurred?

While differing points of view and prospectives are good, blatant fake news/propaganda being parroted instead of called out is not.

plawolf said:

Feelings like actual fake news, since the imagines on the big screens just look like scenes from the rally before the storming.

The tent setting would also fit, unless anyone here actually seriously believe the entire presidential first family would be casually standing around in a tent somewhere outdoors in D.C. when the actual storming occurred?

While differing points of view and prospectives are good, blatant fake news/propaganda being parroted instead of called out is not.

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I'll check to see if there are others from other outlets with the same report/video.

I tried to delete the vid while doing the checking butt it's too late, passed the 10mins limit.

Sorry about that. Will check othersto if the vid d coming from other events now.

Litebreeze said:

I'll check to see if there are others from other outlets with the same report/video.

I tried to delete the vid while doing the checking butt it's too late, passed the 10mins limit.

Sorry about that. Will check othersto if the vid d coming from other events now.

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Actually i hope active mod who is online now can just delete that post.

It's easy to repost it the vid is real, rather than leaving it to cause confusion.

Thanks and sorry for this.

Edit: so far i checked no other news sites with similar video broadcast. Big chance it's just simply vid from different event being wrongly labeled.

Litebreeze said:

Shocking video of Trump's family partying while watching TVs of the protesters storming Capitol. Even dance to it.

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This site is saying that the vid were recorded hours before the protesters stormed the Capitol.

Assuming this site is correct and not another disinformation on disinformation, then it's the timing and the title are wrong. The tent and Trump's family and what they were watching on tv were the scene the same day as the riot. Only different is the timing and the title.

In reality, the footage was taken just before Donald Trump Jr. spoke to the crowd at the Save America Rally, which took place hours before anyone stormed the Capitol.

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- it seems like YouTube, Twitter and fb start to delete that content.
- still hope mod could just delete the post. Thanks.

There are some news sites reporting similar video, that the video were taken same day before the storming of Capitol.




I think it can be concluded as:

1. The video was taken same day as the riot but BEFORE the storming of the Capitol.
2. Trump's family were in the tent before the protesters stormed the Capitol.
3. The titles and the timing of the post are misleading.

Sorry for the misleading title and timing. Hope this clears up the confusion.

I think Trumps game plan was, he was hoping the mob will kill some lawmakers and/or burn the capitol so that he will have an excuse to impose martial law and cancel inagauration.

But it didnt happen thats why he was quick to condemn his attacking supporters to maybe hoping to save himself.

I think some of you are falling for left wing conspiracy theories that this was some Trump master plan.

What part of the last 4 years makes anyone think Trump has a habit or even base capabilities of hatching devious master plans, keeping it under wraps and pressing ahead with them?

The most likely explanation I can see is that Trump was doing what he always does - brag and boast and moan off the cuff, and from what I have seen of it (which admittedly wasn’t the whole speech as there is only so much Trump I can endure at a go), it wasn’t really even especially out of character to what he says all the time.

Indeed, his supporters didn’t really feel unusually whipped up in all honesty. The key factor that allowed the storming was the bare bones policing and even active invitations by the police on duty for his supporters to come on in.

If there was a conspiracy, I don’t think it was Trump who masterminded it, indeed it felt like it was aimed squarely to undermine Trump.

I always found that a good touchstone for analysing events is to constantly ask the question of why would someone want to do what was done, and who actually benefits.

With that analysis, it’s hard to see what Trump would have to gain from such a stunt. Indeed it was almost certainly, and has proven to be massively damaging for him, since not only did this storming obliterate the positions of the Republican lawmakers who were planning on supporting him and his claims of a stolen election; it would have also forced him into the impossible position of having to choose to either directly and publicly condemn his most loyal and passionate supporters; or damn himself in the eyes of everyone else for failing to speak up against the storming.

To my eyes, it really looks like this was Mike Pence and the Republican Party secretly doing damage limitation to try to pre-empt any last minute Hell Marry Trump might have been tempted to play, by effectively employing controlled burning tactics to scorch the earth and create a firebreak and prevent Trump from being able to whip up a real inferno later.

SimaQian said:

I think Trumps game plan was, he was hoping the mob will kill some lawmakers and/or burn the capitol so that he will have an excuse to impose martial law and cancel inagauration.

But it didnt happen thats why he was quick to condemn his attacking supporters to maybe hoping to save himself.

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@SimaQian,

You need the military to enforce Martial law and from what I read both the civilian administrator and men in uniform will not go for it. Trump is a coward, indecisive, he is more bluff than action, it shows the man is pampered thru out his life and is incapable of making incisive decision. If you plan a event that may have major historical implication you have to go all out.