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ansy1968

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This is happening because of optics. The US looks like it's for war while China is working at peace. They haven't changed their strategy and will still work to use Ukraine for regime change in Russia. It's just like how China still has to surrender to all US demands when the US says it's up to China to improve relations taking the onus off themselves... Just look at what US allies are experiencing. They only exists to give what the US wants. That's allies. They aren't expecting less from China.
Sir an exit ramp? hope the Chinese bring a cart to pull the Ukraine out of their misery.
 

horse

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The words of a president should carry weight.

And look where he said it, right in Washington DC in their faces.

Then Marcos Jr would state that the topic never came up, the part about using the Philippines as an offensive base in any Taiwan war, and this part is a total lie. The topic came up. For sure!

It is like the movies, The Good The Bad and The Ugly. One of these guys is the sucker.

:oops:

 
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The words of a president should carry weight.

And look where he said it, right in Washington DC in their faces.

Then Marcos Jr would state that the topic never came up, the part about using the Philippines as an offensive base in any Taiwan war, and this part is a total lie. The topic came up. For sure!

It is like the movies, The Good The Bad and The Ugly. One of these guys is the sucker.

:oops:

What will Marcos do if US decided to launch an attack? order the Phillipines armies to lie down on the tarmac to prevent the US planes to take off or land?
 

BoraTas

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a bit of an own goal here by the US no? i cant help but think that the CCP leadership secretly chuckle at this kind of stuff. the nearest equivalent i can think of were the french persecution of protestants, forcing them to take refuge in england and the low countries.
It is not even that. Who buys land and houses in Florida despite being non-residents? Rich people looking for another house in Miami. This is basically banning those people from bringing in money.
The problem here is that such a law passing. It is both idiotic (if the Chinese are that big of a threat they shouldn't buy anything from China) and it is naked racial discrimination
 

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Taiwan’s spy chief warned that Chinese President Xi Jinping’s moves to surround himself with a coterie of like-minded officials increases the risk of conflict over the island at the heart of US-China tensions.

Gaming out the black box that is Xi’s government means Taiwan is increasingly exchanging information with the “Five Eyes” spy bloc in real time to understand China’s military plans,
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, the director-general of Taiwan’s National Security Bureau, recently told lawmakers.

Xi “doesn’t allow any kind of different voice in the Chinese political system,” Tsai said in an interview with Bloomberg, citing personnel moves at key Communist Party meetings over the past year. That means “the risk of making a wrong decision will become much higher.”

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A lot of traditional propaganda tropes from Bloomberg.
 

AssassinsMace

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The US backtracking on its so-called human rights and democratic values. When the Saudi-Iranian deal happened, I heard many in the US refer to losing a long-time ally, Saudi Arabia, to China. You mean a human rights violating non-democratic long time ally...? Democracies versus autocracies was just the fat now being cut-off by US hypocrisy revealing the real meat of it all which is preserving white supremacy.
 

horse

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What will Marcos do if US decided to launch an attack? order the Phillipines armies to lie down on the tarmac to prevent the US planes to take off or land?

There is many ways and many aspects to this, but the most fundamental question would be what is there right now?

Are there offensive weapons on those bases from the Americans pointed at China right now? The US military wants missiles on these sites, that is a open secret.

This is what I am saying.

When there are actual US missiles on Philippines bases, then they will be attacked and annihilated, in case that becomes involved in a war with China.

Until then, the game is different.

So I would say we need to see some offensive weapons there on the Philippines base, before CCP turns up the hostility.

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Now, this is what I really think, and it was something I read on the internet.

Remember when China invaded Vietnam under Deng's orders.

A similar situation can happen here, we just need another Vietnam candidate, and today those would be Australia, Canada, or the Philippines.

China should create some sort of major military incident with one of those candidates,, and just see how everyone responds.

If they want to fuck around, let's fuck around, you know.

But, there are two problems with this, arriving at this goal for the CCP.

1) Those vassal are not completely dumb. They remember what happened to Vietnam. It was abandoned by the Soviets, like how the Americans abandoned it.

2) Those vassal kind of know they are in the crosshairs of such a scenario, and will be far more cautious. That would deny the opportunity for China to come down hard on one of them.

Some Australian commentators thought Australia was going to be the Vietnam example. But the new leader kind of improving relations with China, so they are out as a candidate for now.

Canada is kind of clueless, not what to do with them. That leaves the prime candidate the Philippines.

Currently if the reports are to believed, China Coast Guard and paramilitary boats number over 100 in sensitive areas in the South China Sea near the Philippines. Seems to me, they are ready to start the dredging to create more islands.

Those islands, the current ones, and hopefully new ones, will be very important if Philippines get involved in a Taiwan war. Those island are big, and heavily defended. Those islands will launch the attacks on Philippines bases to annihilate them.

Marcos Jr is not that dumb. He's knows what is going on, and he knows he does not have a strong hand. He wants the Americans to counterbalance the Chinese on the South China Sea issue, but the Americans are only interested in the Taiwan card.

So, that is how I see the game now, and how it could evolve.

China Coast Guard today is openly bullying the much small Philippines Coast Guard, and the CCP absolutely don't give a shit about that. They want it to happen.

I personally suspect they want the the Americans to show up in the South China Sea to defend the Philippines from the bullying.

We all saw the recent pictures of those incidents, and there were more than one, and probably be a few more soon.
 

horse

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The Philippines, is very different type of country.

Marcos Jr, his father, the people wanted to hunt him down and kill him, but he fled by then.

Before that, the army did Marcos the dictator a favour by killing Aquino a political rival, right there on the tarmac.

The CPC, they know politics, and are sensitive to each and every nations internal workings.

Marcos Jr is scared of everybody basically.

He's scared of his own military. He's scared of his own people. Given what happened to Aquino and Marcos, he should be. Then he has to contend with the Chinese in the seas, which he has no chance. Then the Americans want something from him.

People have opinions, you know know what I means.

Objectively, the CCP should let this Philippines thing play out some more.

We do not really know how all the stress and influences on the players here in the Philippines will play itself out. We don't.

In the meantime, just put more boats, assets, into position.

:oops::D
 

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About 56% of those who had suicidal thoughts did not speak to anyone about it, while 12.4% of people said they opened up to friends and 11.7% to their mothers.
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Yet some Japanese policymakers want to get involved in a conflict over the Taiwan Strait. They are really delusional.

Actually, big brain move by Nippon government: "Feeling suicidal? Here's how to do it with style!"
 
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