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baykalov

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Germany's "Tagesschau" is now also blaming the Ukraine for the Nord Stream pipeline bombing. Combined with The NY Times piece earlier, this is clearly a coordinated misinformation campaign. Was this why Olaf Scholz and Joe Biden recently met?!

Why all of a sudden, one month after the Seymour Hersh, everybody seems to "have known from the start" of the other narrative?


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The Times: Western intelligence services have long known about the Ukrainian trace of sabotage on the "Nord Streams" Information did not become public, as this would lead to an aggravation of relations between Ukraine and Germany. The publication also says that European intelligence knows the name of the "private sponsor" of sabotage. His identity is not disclosed by the special services, but we are talking about a wealthy Ukrainian who is allegedly not related to President Vladimir Zelensky.

"Sooner or later his name will definitely be announced, especially considering that he seems to have left his unusual "business card".

Ukraine's relations with its allies will remain in a better state if this person himself comes forward with a confession," the newspaper notes, without specifying what kind of evidence indicating the identity of the "influential figure" may be in question.

According to the authors of the material, NATO sought to prevent this information from becoming public, as this would lead to an aggravation of relations between Ukraine and Germany.
 

Temstar

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Probably way too imaginative for the current lot running the show in the west, but this does potentially offer the US a hilariously effective outside the box solution to their Ukraine problem, which is how to stop the Russians from grinding Ukraine and the west’s collective weapons and munitions stocks to rubble eventually without directly fighting the Russians on the battlefield themselves.

The US can accuse Ukraine of blowing up Nord Stream, declare article 5 and ‘invade’ Ukraine from the west.

They could facilitate that by buying off all of Zelensky’s top generals beforehand and making it clear they won’t be affected. Those generals orders the Ukraine military to stand down and surrender to the incoming NATO forces while resisting the Russians as hard as they can in the east. Within a few days NATO armies are in eastern Ukraine taking the surrender of the last Ukrainians holding the line against the Russians and the Ukraine war is over with a new East-West Ukraine situation very similar to how Germany was after WWII.

They can blame it all on Zelensky personally, maybe the western MSM suddenly copy paste all the Russian claims about Zelensky being a coke addict and now it’s all down to one drug addict having lost his marbles after one too many hits.
This is clever, and if it was just up to Poland it could happen. But if US has the smarts to do this they wouldn't be in this position in the first place.
 

Chevalier

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This congress is going based. It seems the concept of China as a politically passive trader is finally dead. It is time to see the elephant in the room.

On top of the inflation crisis the west is experiencing? Looks like anglos will finally get to relive the 30s complete with being dollar millionaires spending several wheelbarrows of Benjamin Franklin s to buy a quart of milk.
 

In4ser

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Sometimes these people do have a plan, kinda. Koreans' mythical origin is Paektusan (Baitoushan 白头山, Chinese name 长白山). Confucius lived in Shandong. Claiming that Confucius was Korean is that iteratively reinventing their history over time. In the future they will use their fake history to lay claims to north east China at least. Especially with the recent discovery of fossil fuel deposits in Bohai.

It's classic tactics well practised by DPP in Taiwan too - charge 5 steps forward, get pushed back 3, they still end up 2 steps forward.
Psshh…you guys obviously don’t know about the Finno-Korean hyperwar
 
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