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Fatty said:
Can someone explain to me why Putin doesn’t do a purge of CIA assets? Are you seriously telling me the descendants of the KGB that ran the CIA like a dog and pony show can’t at least purge the informants out of the higher ranking officials?
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Probably because he doesn't know who is who, China doesn't know either, it is only through compromised communication that CIA assets are identified. Also, informants do not necessarily need to be high ranking, someone in the loop is enough, like a no name bureaucrat or aide, a country cannot be ran with top official alone, even if it is only in the discussion phase.

I believe CIA communication intel is shared with Russia in 2010, but I'm not sure if they've done much about it.
 
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Fatty said:
Can someone explain to me why Putin doesn’t do a purge of CIA assets? Are you seriously telling me the descendants of the KGB that ran the CIA like a dog and pony show can’t at least purge the informants out of the higher ranking officials?
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One of the best defense against espionage is economic growth. When China was poor it was easy to buy your way into high places, but trying doing it now and at the minimum your target will be like "sure I'll betray my country for you, if you first buy me a house in Chaoyang District in Beijing" and even CIA doesn't have the budget for that.

The other type of turncoat is mainly motivated by ideology. The best defense against that is your own strong opposing ideology which China still has and Russia does not since they gave up on communism.

In that regard you see why Russia is so much easier to penetrate than China.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632486953525592064

This is like the opening scene of Top Gun where the pilots have a breakdown and can't handle being killed in battle.

Perhaps it's starting to dawn on some ADF personnel that they're going to have to die for some idiot in Canberra for his bosses in Washington. Also, i'm noticing a lot of ADF recruitment ads around Australia as well as Australian media. Guess they really need to keep to that schedule of 2025.
 
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Fatty said:
Can someone explain to me why Putin doesn’t do a purge of CIA assets? Are you seriously telling me the descendants of the KGB that ran the CIA like a dog and pony show can’t at least purge the informants out of the higher ranking officials?
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Having CIA assets close is also a way for planting false information to the handlers. Putin, being Ex-KGB, should know the basics.
 
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Anyone knows how it could happen?
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Russians central bank didnot lowered there foreign reserves by$300b and they just lowered Russia external debt by $100b. so i guess this all that give and take has taken place. the rest is just Political statements to portray West as unreliable.

see this balance trade between Germany and Russia in January 2023.
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Exports to the Russian Federation increased a calendar and seasonally adjusted 12.3% to 1.0 billion euros in January 2023 compared with December 2022 and dropped 60.0% from January 2022. Imports from Russia fell 36.7% to 1.0 billion euros in January 2023 from December 2022.
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My guess is that American spying on Russia often occurs through American websites such as YouTube or WhatsApp.

YouTube is very popular in Russia; WhatsApp was the most widely used messaging service before the war. Google, while less popular than Yandex, was still ranked #3.

Certainly on the lower level, the USA can track soldiers or MIC bureaucrats through their use of YouTube, WhatsApp, and Google.

On the upper level, I'm guessing that 90% of Kremlin officials are anti-American and don't use American websites, with the exceptions of YouTube and Google Play.

But if you even have just one official who likes Western products and decides to do the incredibly stupid act of creating a Google profile and using a personal Gmail account, Google Photos on their mobile, Google Drive to store personal documents, WhatsApp to text friends, and YouTube and Google searches while logged onto their Google profile (including sometimes at work because they forget to log off after checking their personal Gmail on their Kremlin work computer) - that really is a goldmine for the CIA. And I bet there's not just one Kremlin official who makes these mistakes; there are probably at least a dozen.
 
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