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ansy1968

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I believe pride is central to Indian's problem. It stops them from work hard to improve because they refuse to acknowledge their current poor state. This manifest in two ways. First they need someone to step on. They compare themselves to someone who is decent (China) and convince themselves India is better. Second they need to borrow glory from someone. They compare themselves to those better than them to convince themselves be equal. But at the same time this pride is very valuable for stopping them become puppets of USA. Why would I bend over to you if I am your equal? So instead of just mocking that pride we should work with it.

You cannot change that pride, but you can rework it to make it more suitable for cooperation. Hear me out: "China is an equal to India, and they need our (indian) help. Western countries are losers and we India is smarter than them. We have independent diplomacy and we are backing the winner that is Russia. The fact China can see that makes them on the same page as us which means they are worthy to work with."

If somehow we can rework the narrative that way we can foster a cooperative relationship with India; regardless of their pride that they are better than us. We just need to swap the position with west. Make India step on west instead. Make China share glory to India. To do so we have Russia to act as pivot. Convince them western country are dumb, and China is smart, but not smarter than India. This way you earn just enough respect, but not so much that they become jealous. In other words there needs something done on western country. Beating western country is the key to pacifying India.
Bro to be fair it's not only the Indians BUT all former colonized country. I'm seeing the same here in the Philippines, my thesis it's a "VICTIM COMPLEX" or "VICTIM MENTALITY". To cure it you have to fight for it to erase that trauma, India was grant independence in a silver platter while China had to undergo a violent struggle to be able to mold its national psychic.
 
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luminary

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I believe pride is central to Indian's problem. It stops them from work hard to improve because they refuse to acknowledge their current poor state. This manifest in two ways. First they need someone to step on. They compare themselves to someone who is decent (China) and convince themselves India is better. Second they need to borrow glory from someone. They compare themselves to those better than them to convince themselves be equal. But at the same time this pride is very valuable for stopping them become puppets of USA. Why would I bend over to you if I am your equal? So instead of just mocking that pride we should work with it.

You cannot change that pride, but you can rework it to make it more suitable for cooperation. Hear me out: "China is an equal to India, and they need our (indian) help. Western countries are losers and we India is smarter than them. We have independent diplomacy and we are backing the winner that is Russia. The fact China can see that makes them on the same page as us which means they are worthy to work with."

If somehow we can rework the narrative that way we can foster a cooperative relationship with India; regardless of their pride that they are better than us. We just need to swap the position with west. Make India step on west instead. Make China share glory to India. To do so we have Russia to act as pivot. Convince them western country are dumb, and China is smart, but not smarter than India. This way you earn just enough respect, but not so much that they become jealous. In other words there needs something done on western country. Beating western country is the key to pacifying India.
This is it. Populism is all about the narrative. When the time comes it will be surprisingly easy for India to flip.

When USA is driven out of the Asia-Pacific, MSM will also help Americans understand the fact that they are "surrendering from a position of strength". The Americans will happily live in their media bubble of perceived superiority while the world passes them by. That's why the English are obsessed with the concept of "ignorance is bliss". From this perspective, India is already far ahead of USA.
 

Chevalier

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America's mouth is insane but their ability is limited and this is an act of desperation so don't let it throw you off your plan or your rhythm. Right now, America's trash talk is Mike Tyson level... if Mike Tyson was shitting himself trying to call 30 midgets to help him fight a Polar Bear instead of a dude he actually thought he could beat alone. China's the scientist in his lab making the technology that will dominate the future. America's the nut outside yelling out his threats and fantasies to distract China and to make himself feel tough. American culture is very shallow and recently, insecure above all; it is one that feels powerless in silence so if they can't make progress, they make noise to feel like they're making progress. The best retaliation from the scientist is to keep sciencing away with his headphones tuned into his favorite playlist.
I think we've now had a taste of what an Indian Superpower would really be like.
I believe pride is central to Indian's problem. It stops them from work hard to improve because they refuse to acknowledge their current poor state. This manifest in two ways. First they need someone to step on. They compare themselves to someone who is decent (China) and convince themselves India is better. Second they need to borrow glory from someone. They compare themselves to those better than them to convince themselves be equal. But at the same time this pride is very valuable for stopping them become puppets of USA. Why would I bend over to you if I am your equal? So instead of just mocking that pride we should work with it.

You cannot change that pride, but you can rework it to make it more suitable for cooperation. Hear me out: "China is an equal to India, and they need our (indian) help. Western countries are losers and we India is smarter than them. We have independent diplomacy and we are backing the winner that is Russia. The fact China can see that makes them on the same page as us which means they are worthy to work with."

If somehow we can rework the narrative that way we can foster a cooperative relationship with India; regardless of their pride that they are better than us. We just need to swap the position with west. Make India step on west instead. Make China share glory to India. To do so we have Russia to act as pivot. Convince them western country are dumb, and China is smart, but not smarter than India. This way you earn just enough respect, but not so much that they become jealous. In other words there needs something done on western country. Beating western country is the key to pacifying India.
I don't see why China nor anyone should indulge what is evidently a moral failing.
It should be noted that even at the height of Indian braggadocio during 2020 and Galwan, that India's trade deficit with China soared, indicating that for all of its loquacious BS, India needs Chinese products even when it tries to steal factories from China.
Like the other loquacious bragadaccio on the other side of the Pacific, Indians will finally come around to doing the right thing after it has exhausted all options.
Forget the Anglos, China is the indispensable nation.

Finally, look at the final result of indulging and accomodating Indian insecurities: your society becomes infested and infiltrated with Indians at top levels of Fortune 500 companies and government organisations which bring with them native prejudices and nepotism eg Oracle Brahmin scandal, Germany now having to consider mass indian migration to prevent its self inflicted wounds on its economy turning terminal.
 

emblem21

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Pretty disgusting that NATO has sunk this low, hopefully sooner or later, Russia finally given Brussels the kind of death and suffering that completely deserve, they helped teach Ukraine to do this stuff, they need to pay for there actions in full. I am sick and tired of this Nazi's (whether they are German or from the USA assisting Ukraine) going after the innocent like this, these evil bastards deserve to pay the price, I hope Russia is ready to turn them into fertilizer
 
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Chevalier

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Brexiteers bemoaned losing jobs to european continentals only to now lose their jobs to Indians

To be fair, indians are cheaper compared to europeans but whether or not it makes Britain more competitive...well that's up to the Elites of the UK to decide.

Acceptance stage of Grief observed amongst some Atlanticists; only question is whether they're going to be the Cassandras of the Atlantic as well?
 
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BoraTas

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Brexiteers bemoaned losing jobs to european continentals only to now lose their jobs to Indians

To be fair, indians are cheaper compared to europeans but whether or not it makes Britain more competitive...well that's up to the Elites of the UK to decide.

Acceptance stage of Grief observed amongst some Atlanticists; only question is whether they're going to be the Cassandras of the Atlantic as well?
That will be quite hard to pull with increasing anti-intellectualism and isolationism in the USA.
 
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