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measuredingabens

Junior Member
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I am maybe overanalyzing it but this balloon incident is evidence of the US being a sh*tshow on multiple levels.

1- Why they couldn't shut it down before it entered their airspace and was floating throughout the country? If it was an ISR platform, they spectacularly failed. If it was not, then they shot down a harmless civilian aircraft. The latter is likely the case.

2- The US military's reaction was absurd. How many sorties did they launch? We don't know. But we know they had 3 tankers in patrol most of the time. That is a lot of flight hours flown by a lot of aircraft. It feels like middle-ranking commanders are trying to get promoted by showing their merits. This shouldn't be the case. Using national resources to advance your career is corruption.

3- It feels like the Biden admin and Pentagon were against having talks with China. They needed a scapegoat to indefinitely postpone the meeting and look tough (looking tough is the holy grail of modern anglosphere politics). But thanks to Republicans being tougher and the hysteria of Americans it backfired. The leadership had to make a lot of statements and they had to shoot it down finally. Now they have even worse relations with China, likely lost votes, and made the US look like an idiot. This is just my opinion. You may disagree.

4- Politicians and some common people who are celebrating the shooting down of the balloon... They are funny. This whole event had to be a non-event. It blew out of proportion because the US media is a reality show and American politics are extremely polarized. Any rationality dies in minutes because of these. Also, politicians and media figures trying to get popular by glorifying the military feels very 3rd world. That usually happens in the third world. Republicans who are doing that are especially funny considering they hate the government otherwise.
I think the most likely reason is the media sensationalising the entire affair, resulting in Republicans causing hysteria and Biden caving in to pressure. This entire farce is a three ring circus.
 

Temstar

Brigadier
Registered Member
China Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed that a civilian airship, used for flight tests, deviated far from its planned course and entered into Latin America and Caribbean airspace. The airship was affected by climate and with limited self-steering capability.
Wow it's true:

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对此,中国外交部发言人毛宁回应称,关于你提到的拉丁美洲上空的气球,经了解核实,有关的这个无人飞艇来自中国,属民用性质,用于飞行试验。受气候影响,而且自身控制能力有限,这一飞艇严重偏离了预定路线,误入拉美和加勒比上空。
The Wandering Balloon 2: Helium Flash
This is going to makes the yanks to loony again trying to figure out what it all means.
 

pmc

Major
Registered Member
Why doesn't India use its own currency for buying Russian stuff?
India does not earn much exporting to Russia so there is less use of Rupee.
India earns in Mideast currencies due to large diaspora working there and exporting since India has to cater to Indians.
if India has those currencies instead of converting them into dollars to buy dollar based oil. they can use those currencies. . I think similar situation with gold and other metals trading. overall higher expenses due to Ukraine war will lower gold price as Russia maybe selling gold but gold demand is so high that it is not falling much. Swiss dont like this financial system moving to Mideast.

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plawolf

Lieutenant General
Do their radars have a three year lag or something? How does this even work?

I think it’s because of common sense being applied back in Trump’s time (I know, I did a double take as I thought this).

High altitude scientific weather balloons have minimal controllably and are basically at the mercy of winds.

With climate change changing global weather patterns, not only are our standard regression based weather forecasting models much less reliable and accurate, there is also added incentive to do more weather monitoring and research to try to come up with better predictive models, which means more weather balloons being launched.

All of that means it’s more likely and more common to see weather balloons getting blown off course. So if someone detects a weather balloon flying with the wind, they will just chalk it off as another lost balloon and not go to red alert over it. And that seems to be precisely how the military initially handled this latest balloon saga until the media got involved. That then got the politicians involved and caused all the drama and idiocy since.
 

Chevalier

Captain
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It’s ok now, little Timmy, the big bad balloon won’t hurt you any more.

but really, my pet theory is that after Yellen got turned down by china when she tried to flog useless US treasuries, and given that Blinken wasn’t going to get what he needed ie Chinese lending money to Anglo America and not giving aid to Russia, the anglos needed a face saving out. Hence the ballon brouhaha.
 
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