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escobar

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The U.S. thinks it's a high-altitude balloon from China that entered domestic airspace a few days ago, according to a senior defense official. This is not the first time a surveillance balloon has come into domestic airspace. It is appearing to "hangout for a longer period" than in previous instances, the senior defense official said. The balloon drifted into the US ADIZ from outside and then floated over Canada into CONUS.
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Balloons that appear to have a very similar overall configuration to the one spotted over Montana have appeared in the skies over India and Japan.
This all is very intriguing given a very similar response, including the scrambling of F-22 Raptors, to the appearance of another spherical balloon floating off the coast of Hawaii nearly a year ago. To date, U.S. officials do not appear to have disclosed the origin or suspected origin of that balloon. The War Zone reached out to the Pentagon to ask whether this was also a suspected Chinese surveillance asset, but was again told that no additional information could be provided at this time in response to this query. That balloon was floating off Kauai not far from a sensitive missile test site.
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coolgod

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It will be very hard to teach a lesson to Turkey as long as Germany is the core of Euro-Atlantic alliance.
They like to stir these things to deflect attention and be in conformity with German interests world wide. you can see the preference.



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In case you didn't get the memo, Germany isn't in the P5. Neither China nor US gives a f**k about what Germany thinks, especially not with puppet Scholz in charge. Germany may have been some second-rate power under Merkel, but now it is just an international laughingstock.
We're less than four months away from the Turkish presidential election (early May), I'm guessing it's a ploy to boost Erdo's flagging popularity and his third term chances. Might be smart to wait this one out.
So Turkey can meddle in China's ethnic affairs (core interest) whenever it has an election? Who is to say Erdogan's replacement will be any better. China has to respond eventually.

Erdogan has been using his Foreign Minister to attack China using so called Uyghur issue multiple times in the past few months for his election campaign. The Chinese (private and state-affiliated) media reported on these when it could have easily ignored it, ask yourself why not?
 
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Looking online and even sinophobic NYTimes readers aren't buying the story that its a "spy balloon." For one, the kind of balloon they reported cannot be manually controlled and as such, if its purpose really was to collect intelligence on the US its a shoddy job that, nevermind the worst stereotypes about Chinese quality the US holds, not even Venezuela or North Korea would be stupid enough to do. Two, if it was a foreign object from China why the hell did the US military allow it to float all the way to frickin' Montana? You're telling me all Al Quaeda or ISIS had to do to sneak incendiary devices of mass destruction into America post 9/11 was to float them in with balloons? Three, the US military is apparently concerned shooting it down now will create collateral damage. Except its frickin Montana the 48th most densely populated state there are more cows than people, its not exactly the same as shooting down an aerial object over Interstate 405 during rush hour.

Simply put, its manufactering consent. There is a Cold War going on and China did not fire the first shot.
 

9dashline

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Looking online and even sinophobic NYTimes readers aren't buying the story that its a "spy balloon." For one, the kind of balloon they reported cannot be manually controlled and as such, if its purpose really was to collect intelligence on the US its a shoddy job that, nevermind the worst stereotypes about Chinese quality the US holds, not even Venezuela or North Korea would be stupid enough to do. Two, if it was a foreign object from China why the hell did the US military allow it to float all the way to frickin' Montana? You're telling me all Al Quaeda or ISIS had to do to sneak incendiary devices of mass destruction into America post 9/11 was to float them in with balloons? Three, the US military is apparently concerned shooting it down now will create collateral damage. Except its frickin Montana the 48th most densely populated state there are more cows than people, its not exactly the same as shooting down an aerial object over Interstate 405 during rush hour.

Simply put, its manufactering consent. There is a Cold War going on and China did not fire the first shot.
US gov doesnt not need ""consent" of the people to engage China in full scale war... when that time comes, they would not even bother with pretenses
 

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"When the U.S. defense secretary,
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III, visited Indonesia in November, he pressed his counterpart there about a deal to buy 36 American fighter jets. He left without an agreement.

Just days before, the same Indonesian official, Prabowo Subianto, met with China’s defense minister, and the two countries pledged to resume joint military exercises.

Located across the southern edge of the South China Sea, Indonesia, the resource-laden nation with a fast-growing trillion-dollar economy and a large population, is a big prize in the geopolitical battle between Washington and Beijing for influence in Asia. And its strategic location, with about 17,000 islands straddling thousands of miles of vital sea lane, is a defensive necessity as both sides gear up for a possible conflict over Taiwan, the island democracy that China claims it possesses."

China should really just be consolidating support in the countries it has influence in. Wooing Philippines is pretty fruitless as long as the Nine-Dash-Line policy is in place.
 

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"When the U.S. defense secretary,
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III, visited Indonesia in November, he pressed his counterpart there about a deal to buy 36 American fighter jets. He left without an agreement.

Just days before, the same Indonesian official, Prabowo Subianto, met with China’s defense minister, and the two countries pledged to resume joint military exercises.

Located across the southern edge of the South China Sea, Indonesia, the resource-laden nation with a fast-growing trillion-dollar economy and a large population, is a big prize in the geopolitical battle between Washington and Beijing for influence in Asia. And its strategic location, with about 17,000 islands straddling thousands of miles of vital sea lane, is a defensive necessity as both sides gear up for a possible conflict over Taiwan, the island democracy that China claims it possesses."

China should really just be consolidating support in the countries it has influence in. Wooing Philippines is pretty fruitless as long as China insists on its Nine-Dash-Line.
Agree.

In fact, compared to the Philippines, at least Indonesia still have some degree and sense of autonomy.

Therefore, it is imperative for China to work out a resolution on the EEZ dispute with Indonesia surrounding the Natuna Islands ASAP, like how Vietnam and Indonesia has agreed to delineate their EEZ disputes around Natuna several days ago.

Out of all the claimants in the SCS, Indonesia has the least to loose from the dispute. So I think China should capitalize on this opportunity.
 

GZDRefugee

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Looking online and even sinophobic NYTimes readers aren't buying the story that its a "spy balloon." For one, the kind of balloon they reported cannot be manually controlled and as such, if its purpose really was to collect intelligence on the US its a shoddy job that, nevermind the worst stereotypes about Chinese quality the US holds, not even Venezuela or North Korea would be stupid enough to do. Two, if it was a foreign object from China why the hell did the US military allow it to float all the way to frickin' Montana? You're telling me all Al Quaeda or ISIS had to do to sneak incendiary devices of mass destruction into America post 9/11 was to float them in with balloons? Three, the US military is apparently concerned shooting it down now will create collateral damage. Except its frickin Montana the 48th most densely populated state there are more cows than people, its not exactly the same as shooting down an aerial object over Interstate 405 during rush hour.

Simply put, its manufactering consent. There is a Cold War going on and China did not fire the first shot.
We're not gonna talk about how it reached Montana without tripping air defense radars? The fuck are they gonna do against hypersonic glide vehicles if their observation is this shitty.
 

Botnet

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Agree.

In fact, compared to the Philippines, at least Indonesia still have some degree and sense of autonomy.

Therefore, it is imperative for China to work out a resolution on the EEZ dispute with Indonesia surrounding the Natuna Islands ASAP, like how Vietnam and Indonesia has agreed to delineate their EEZ disputes around Natuna several days ago.

Out of all the claimants in the SCS, Indonesia has the least to loose from the dispute. So I think China should capitalize on this opportunity.
Exactly. If the US insists on going back to Cold War blocs, then there should be nothing stopping China from doing the same. Now's a good time to make amends with its Southeast Asian neighbors. At the same time, keep good relations with countries like Australia and SK, enough to the point that they won't intervene in a Taiwan scenario.
 
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