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[Biscuits]

Investing in 3rd world countries isn't exactly charity. It is getting rid of paper USD in exchange for something more useful (resources, markets for Chinese products and maybe some goodwill) than treasury IOU.

Modernizing NK is indeed a wise choice though.

About 100 J-10Cs, a few dozen HQ-22s and a few thousand ATGMs and drones would go far to secure NK.

This, what some ppl don't get is that giving these investments aren't a loss for China.

Money =/= power. Power = ability to keep money circulating into projects, but not having money itself.

When China gives an investment, they move currency through their companies (can be anything, from consumer goods to electronics to construction), creating demand which creates growth for the companies. Growth translates to increased capabilities = increased national power.

So objectively China loses "money" (liquidity) but they win in what most ppl would agree is actual, usable, wealth (living standards, productive forces)

The recipient gets a handful of liquidity but this is mostly useless because almost all nations are heavily indebted anyways. If the recipient cannot use the cash to build out their own national capabilities (I.e. Functions that are natively owned), they do not benefit in terms of increased national strength.

Chinese international circulation of RMB and Dollar serves to keep China growing in terms of production capabilities, market share etc. Which are the actual metrics through which "wealth" is decided, not liquid cash that can be printed by the PBOC or gets acquired by the bucket load from trade that serves to further rev up local business by passing money through them.

 

[ansy1968]

PH is still fighting a Maoist insurgency that had been sponsored by China until the 70s.

In an interview Lee Kuan Yew gave as he recalled Deng Xiaoping's visit to Singapore in the same time period, Deng asked Lee how China and S'pore could be 'friends', Lee replied: "Lay off supporting these communist movements in SEA". Deng then went: "As you wish", and that was that.

When Duterte didn't have enough guns to fight the NPA and the US blocked the sale, it was China who provided the Filipino govnt thousands of rifles as a gesture of goodwill -

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Sorry bro, you got your information wrong, it was during the Marawi siege that China provided help, the NPA is a dwindle forces, due to Duterte, common folk, farmers and the urban poor the NPA major supporters had switch their allegiance to him because he is a man of the people and he doesn't disappoint. He is a socialist at heart and the one who save my country from being partition within.

And from that day on, we don't rely on "FREE US military assistance" and Duterte dictum is to BUY new equipment instead of relying on American "GENEROSITY" of surplus military that kill more service man from accident and malfunction than the NPA.

 

[Helius]

I'm pretty sure they gave those guns to help Philippines fight the war on drugs, because drug lords are bad. It had nothing to do with communist insurgencies.

Of course, Philippines could have used some of the guns to fight communists, but given that the more pressing conflict is with the drug lords, China would assume that they would primarily use the guns there.

China needs to keep monitoring the situation. If the current Philippines government intend to stand on the right side of history once the chips are down, they should be pardoned for collaboration with the Americans, as they have reasonable economical excuses. Otherwise, China should prepare to swiftly denazify them and install a friendly socialist, or perhaps a maoist, government. Its not like there's a lack of groups that would be willing to take over.

The article stated that the guns was supposedly bound for the army, but Duterte gave them to the police to fight the drug lords instead

But that's the army's side of the story, so who knows what Duterte told the Chinese when he asked for the weapons and what they would be used for.

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Investing in 3rd world countries isn't exactly charity. It is getting rid of paper USD in exchange for something more useful (resources, markets for Chinese products and maybe some goodwill) than treasury IOU. Modernizing NK is indeed a wise choice though. About 100 J-10Cs, a few dozen HQ-22s...

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Sorry bro, you got your information wrong, it was during the Marawi siege that China provided help, the NPA is a dwindle forces, due to Duterte, common folk, farmers and the urban poor the NPA major supporters had switch their allegiance to him because he is a man of the people and he doesn't disappoint. He is a socialist at heart and the one who save my country from being partition within.

[snip]

So the army did need the guns, but to fight IS. I stand corrected.

 

[KYli]

Talk about dysfunctional.

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[name]

PH is still fighting a Maoist insurgency that had been sponsored by China until the 70s.

Thanks for responding but, I was specifically asking if China has tried to counter the Western imperialist brainwashing with information/education.

 

[KYli]

Isn't that obvious. Both sides just don't want things to spiral out of control.

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[Helius]

Thanks for responding but, I was specifically asking if China has tried to counter the Western imperialist brainwashing with information/education.

Yeah, Maoist ideology. It stopped supporting those movements since the 1970s however.

 

[ansy1968]

The article stated that the guns was supposedly bound for the army, but Duterte gave them to the police to fight the drug lords instead

But that's the army's side of the story, so who knows what Duterte told the Chinese when he asked for the weapons and what they would be used for.

Bro the police place an order not the military and you are correct that it was use as a political tool to rein in Duterte which failed miserably. The American is not a reliable partner and we look for China and Russia as replacement. BUT ultimately we go for self sufficiency meaning allocating funds to buy new equipment instead of relying on generosity of others. In this way we can truly implement the mantra of Independent Foreign Policy of "friends to all, enemy to none". All this US accessed talk is nonsense because BBM will adhere to those principle, his massive election victory is base on those premise.

 

[duskseeker]

The Philippines will be nothing more than the white man's vassal state. 400 years of colonialism and they look down on other asians they also fear mid eastern peoples for no reason because of all the movies and video games. They even cheer on Ukraine even if they know they are nazis.

 

[ansy1968]

The Philippines will be nothing more than the white man's vassal state. 400 years of colonialism and they look down on other asians they also fear mid eastern peoples for no reason because of all the movies and video games. They even cheer on Ukraine even if they know they are nazis.

Well it depends to whom you ask, I'm a proud Filipino and many of us are in the silent majority, you may hear it from a rabid PRO American who is a FilAm or holder of US green card not the ordinary common people.