Correct Bro, the question should be ask who want's it more, for the CCP and us Chinese it's a sacred mission, will the American have the same desire as we do?
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I still can't tell if Taiwan is China's "red line" or a GIGANTIC red herring. Like, with the way they parade around the "One China" policy everywhere, or very deliberately tell the US (which we all know has the impulse control of a toddler) "don't do this, this, and this, here, I've even made a bullet pointed list things I don't want you to do and exactly how to do them". Then they let small states like Lithuania troll them, and make a big deal to win over inconsequential Latin American nations on Taiwan. "Look, here's my weak spot. Guys, this is my weak spot, if you want to hurt me, hit right here".
I understand there are merits to keeping Taiwan from international political recognition, but the actual security threats a small island presents are very low to the world's largest navy. However, it is perfect bait for the US, for whom proxy war is their modus operandi. It's almost as if this whole scenario was hand-crafted for them. "Keep your tunnel vision on Taiwan and Taiwanese semiconductors
, definitely don't mind the alliances we're building in Eurasia+Oceania or our quantum leaps". In this sense, I'd say the Taiwan issue does give China diplomatic freedom, as well as control over escalation methods and ladder.I also don't believe that PRC needs immediate reunification for internal purposes (projection from the West again). China isn't like the US, their people are not the hawkish warmongering type, and they have faith in their government to execute long-term plans. PRC could just say "we'll handle the reunification issue when we are good and ready, don't worry", and I feel like people wouldn't mind. 5, 10, 20 years, they are the blink of an eye in Chinese history. The public will be happy as long as economic growth continues and common prosperity is realized.
We're living in US' brezhnev years. They don't have anything left to leverage except isolating themselves more and threatening armed conflict using the massive military they built up in the past.
There is undoubtedly danger, but war between 2 nuclear superpowers might not be a certainty either.
I think China's current strategy is to instigate proxy wars that will ensure that direct invasion of the East by the West will not happen.
Many among the most militarist and nationalist Western officials that seek direct war with China have lamented that whenever America has a chance to "pivot to Asia", something in the middle east and now in Europe always ends up distracting them.
There is never such a thing as a coincidence. China is behind an entire generation of western, eastern and third world elite due to them driving global demand and bailing out the world fiscally in 2008. The influence of MSS is often ignored or invisible, because the best of intelligence agencies do their work in secrecy.
Going forward, expect more "coincidences" that happen to hurt west friendly interests and force US to respond.
Just take the latest happening in India for example. US thought they had the upper hand in influencing India. Suddenly, a group of flaky western looking, internationalist investors, acquire data that will force India to choose between saving Modi's closest oligarch and going into recession, or accept severe humiliation and try to save the economy.
Western bankers, being driven by greed, cannot resist using such data to enrich themselves. Its childs play to manipulate such internationalist and parasitic bankers. And in such groups, there is always a sizeable minority if not majority that became bankers because of the China connection.
Indians see their economy being attacked by westerners. Western oligarchs are being played against Indian oligarchs, in a similar way to how west friendly Russian oligarchs were played by the Ukraine war. A wedge is being driven in, causing a widening opening through more opportunities may arise, perhaps culminating in a new front being opened against the west.
Expect more "coincidences".
There is undoubtedly danger, but war between 2 nuclear superpowers might not be a certainty either.
I think China's current strategy is to instigate proxy wars that will ensure that direct invasion of the East by the West will not happen.
Many among the most militarist and nationalist Western officials that seek direct war with China have lamented that whenever America has a chance to "pivot to Asia", something in the middle east and now in Europe always ends up distracting them.
There is never such a thing as a coincidence. China is behind an entire generation of western, eastern and third world elite due to them driving global demand and bailing out the world fiscally in 2008. The influence of MSS is often ignored or invisible, because the best of intelligence agencies do their work in secrecy.
Going forward, expect more "coincidences" that happen to hurt west friendly interests and force US to respond.
Just take the latest happening in India for example. US thought they had the upper hand in influencing India. Suddenly, a group of flaky western looking, internationalist investors, acquire data that will force India to choose between saving Modi's closest oligarch and going into recession, or accept severe humiliation and try to save the economy.
Western bankers, being driven by greed, cannot resist using such data to enrich themselves. Its childs play to manipulate such internationalist and parasitic bankers. And in such groups, there is always a sizeable minority if not majority that became bankers because of the China connection.
Indians see their economy being attacked by westerners. Western oligarchs are being played against Indian oligarchs, in a similar way to how west friendly Russian oligarchs were played by the Ukraine war. A wedge is being driven in, causing a widening opening through more opportunities may arise, perhaps culminating in a new front being opened against the west.
Expect more "coincidences".
Bro who initiated the BRI? and what goal is it design to achieved. Without the Russian on board this policy is a failure so how come Xi is able to convinced Putin. If we follow the timeline Xi laid out the planned in 2013 as a way to deleveraged itself against the US, so in a way the Chinese are decoupling, luck maybe on Chinese side when Ukraine Maidan happen in 2014, a year after Xi conceptualize his vision BUT I think there is a synergy as the Russian Eurasian Economic union jive with that of BRI, with added bonus of Chinese financial resource and industrial capacity. So Xi courted Putin and western arrogances and hubris played a part for the marriage to happen.
I'm reading the same story from a different site:
Very interesting development indeed.
pre 2022 i though so too 2024~2025, but given with how much western material is needed to keep Ukrainians somewhat combat ready against Russia. Im not sure the NATO is even ready to handle the way harder supply lines to Taiwan given its an island. I wouldn't be surprised if they delay it 3~4 years.
Good question
I would argue that absent the Taiwan issue, that China would be far LESS prepared for US confrontation. It wasn't until the 1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis that China decisively pivoted. It's this singular core issue that has been the main impetus behind China's comprehensive military modernization and development. Without Taiwan, China would have focused almost entirely on the mainland. Instead, China has been literally forced into expanding its "security", not just military, envelope in all realms to counter what is obviously a containment strategy. I'm not saying they wouldn't have developed long-range missiles and plans to extend the kill zone to the 2nd island chain or that the Belt & Road and now evolving non-Western financial order would appear. What I'm saying is, it would have been a far lower priority and both the navy, air force, sanctionable technologies, sanctionable resources, etc, would have been no where near where they are today.
Everybody knows that the Anglo-Americans would enforce not just trade sanctions but military blockades of vulnerable resources and technologies. This has had an enormous impact on China's self-sufficiency in food, natural resources, technologies and dramatically accelerated China's evolution in these directions as a result. China is by far the world's largest market. Once they attain anything approaching self-sufficiency, they attain sovereign global pricing power and market power unrivaled by any potential economic bloc, even including a hypothetical economic bloc composed of the entire OECD combined.
So, this isn't just about military strength but also how it has affected China's comprehensive development in every area we can imagine. China's leadership would have never foreseen the current level of Anglo-American dysfunction without it rearing its head in the early days when China was 3 magnitudes weaker. Imagine what the Western alliance could do to China now if it weren't for Taiwan in the 1990s to counter the Chinese liberals who were totally dominant at that time.