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Australian FM Wong is in Beijing

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GT Voice: Australia can be East-West bridge, not US pawn to contain China

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Repairing China-Australia ties helps ‘meet expectation’ of fixing trade ties, ‘pave way’ for easing China-US tension: expert

Granting those convicts a meeting is rewarding bad behavior... it better be more of a lecture, like reminding them DF-26s fly faster than B-52s. This lecture should be in Tianjin, they don't deserve to set foot in Beijing.
 
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emblem21

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Granting those convicts a meeting is rewarding bad behavior... it better be more of a lecture, like reminding them DF-26s fly faster than B-52s. This lecture should be in Tianjin, they don't deserve to set foot in Beijing.
Who knows, having access to resources is always a good thing, I mean if the USA cannot trade anything with China due to the whole nation going down the toilet due to lack of resources and goods to sell, it’s always good to have another door open in case and who knows, this could play into Chinas advantage regardless. Slowly but surely, given that Australia accept Chinese currency for Iron now, Australia will ultimately assist China in destroying the dollar (unwittingly) which in end will greatly assist china in its inevitable rise. China may not be waging a physical fight with the USA (but are ready to fight any how) but by providing assistance to Europe (all those heaters and electric blankets) and ensuring good relations with South America and Africa (the results showing the Africans rejecting the US attempt to pull Africa into their side, just recently anyhow) and also showing measured restraint in regards to Taiwan (thus no Asian nation apart from a few undesirables) has basically got Tsai into hot water due to her trying to be Zelensky and failing big at that.
Hence I take the sign that the USA has a collapsing retail market (Walmart and Walgreens closing stores in massive numbers) and other market (Amazon firing 20k employees as an example) and with the drought ripping their agricultural industry a new asshole to be a good thing over all, hence while China may have to trade goods with Australia to compensate for some of the good the USA may not be able to provide, it is much easier to endure then having to send goods to the USA for toilet paper that can buy sh!t.
China doesn’t need to unleash the stick preemptively and simply use this as a long term plan to ensure that China has there doors open to opportunities in the future when the time presents itself. Besides, not having to spend a vast amount of resources to keep the US industry going whilst using much less resources to keep a stable trade going for the time being shouldn’t be a bad trade off. That being said, China shouldn’t accept stupid lectures from anyone but if no one brings it up, no one needs to reference it at all since the longer China keeps to status quo and let’s the USA continue the silliness in Ukraine for as long as possible and also letting the US economy go to pieces along with other nations progressively become more anti American, the easier that China can rise to the top and the simpler the transition will be when those other useful nations can fold into Chinas orbit and the rest of those other belligerent trash (UK and Canada being the absolute worse with regards to the whole mess in Europe) can start begging for mercy when they have no where to run and no one wanting to help them
 

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Granting those convicts a meeting is rewarding bad behavior... it better be more of a lecture, like reminding them DF-26s fly faster than B-52s. This lecture should be in Tianjin, they don't deserve to set foot in Beijing.
While carthatic, I don't believe such an action would be pragmatic. Cajoling Australia into playing a balancing act would make the country have second thoughts on following US action. Economic leverage is still a very powerful tool and acquiring more of it never hurts. Given how Australia is largely an extraction economy, it doesn't have many choices outside of the Chinese market.
 

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Did no one share this worrying news?
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I have been numb to the arms sales of the United States, but the following content is brief but extremely powerful:
According to Nikkei Shimbun, Congress is also in discussion on stationing officials to Taiwan for two-year tours, starting Fall 2023. The ten officials recruited from the economic and security trades sent every year will spend their first year on the island learning Mandarin and the second year working in Taiwan’s executive or legislative branch. Expanding interaction between the two governments and deepening the relationship beyond high-level visits.
The bad news is being discussed in China recently.
We can be sure that the Americans are copying the experience of Ukraine, and soon the Taiwan Island will be taken over by American officials. Then Tsai Ing wen or other "presidents" will put forward a series of unacceptable and expensive conditions like Zelensky.

If we take military action, we can be sure that the Americans will take over the Taiwan army in an all-round way. And peaceful reunification will be doomed to become impossible.
 

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I have been numb to the arms sales of the United States, but the following content is brief but extremely powerful:

The bad news is being discussed in China recently.
We can be sure that the Americans are copying the experience of Ukraine, and soon the Taiwan Island will be taken over by American officials. Then Tsai Ing wen or other "presidents" will put forward a series of unacceptable and expensive conditions like Zelensky.

If we take military action, we can be sure that the Americans will take over the Taiwan army in an all-round way. And peaceful reunification will be doomed to become impossible.
Americans do in fact not understand the experience from Ukraine or maybe they don't intend to fight at all.

To take over Taiwan will require not just a medium sized detachment of US military, they will need full mobilization and draft.

The defenses of Taiwan are many times more formidable than the defenses of the Donbass. China can close off the entire region, target incoming invaders all the way to Guam and Australia with weapons that have accuracy and lethality the AFU could only dream about.

As the American threat increases, China is responding with appropriate protective measures. The goal has never been about "peaceful reunification", rather it is homeland defense at all cost.

Currently the government has green lighted construction of next generation nuclear submarines, they're being made in a facility with high capacity and will add to the list of ever growing deterrents in the event of an American special operation against China.
 

zhangjim

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Americans do in fact not understand the experience from Ukraine or maybe they don't intend to fight at all.

To take over Taiwan will require not just a medium sized detachment of US military, they will need full mobilization and draft.

The defenses of Taiwan are many times more formidable than the defenses of the Donbass. China can close off the entire region, target incoming invaders all the way to Guam and Australia with weapons that have accuracy and lethality the AFU could only dream about.

As the American threat increases, China is responding with appropriate protective measures. The goal has never been about "peaceful reunification", rather it is homeland defense at all cost.

Currently the government has green lighted construction of next generation nuclear submarines, they're being made in a facility with high capacity and will add to the list of ever growing deterrents in the event of an American special operation against China.
It's not a bad thing to think about it.
Taking action by force means that there is no room for negotiation, and Americans may play the role of supervising Tsai Ing wen not to surrender. But it's hard for her to escape, or to escape to Hawaii before things get worse.
However, there is still no sign of a comprehensive change in Taiwan's policy. But I believe that once the American plan is implemented, the leadership will change its current attitude no matter what.

I don't know how much time it will take to prepare, but Americans seem to want to speed up. Maybe Biden will visit like Pelosi in the last year of his term of office?
 

dxq4412

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It's not a bad thing to think about it.
Taking action by force means that there is no room for negotiation, and Americans may play the role of supervising Tsai Ing wen not to surrender. But it's hard for her to escape, or to escape to Hawaii before things get worse.
However, there is still no sign of a comprehensive change in Taiwan's policy. But I believe that once the American plan is implemented, the leadership will change its current attitude no matter what.

I don't know how much time it will take to prepare, but Americans seem to want to speed up. Maybe Biden will visit like Pelosi in the last year of his term of office?
Joe Biden?99% No.
Kevin McCarthy?200% Yes!
 
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