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siegecrossbow

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Hmmmm, well Macron better get moving arranging that trip. Too late too late will be the cry when the man with the bargain has walked you by.

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Moreover French and German government sources told Reuters French President Emmanuel Macron had suggested to Scholz they go together to Beijing to send a signal of EU unity to Beijing and counter what they see as Chinese attempts to play one country over another.

But the German chancellor declined Macron's offer, the sources said.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Emmanuel Macron had suggested to Scholz they go together to Beijing

Gays and gentlemen, here's the deal, it's a difficult time, if you go to Beijing together, I will f*ck you up big time.

Joe Biden sent a cryptic message about "gays and gentlemen", which was actually a reference to Scholz and Macron going to Beijing together.

Macron got the message and decided not to join Scholz in fear of getting punished by Biden.

Gotta read between the lines.
 

siegecrossbow

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Joe Biden sent a cryptic message about "gays and gentlemen", which was actually a reference to Scholz and Macron going to Beijing together.

Macron got the message and decided not to join Scholz in fear of getting punished by Biden.

Gotta read between the lines.

Scholz just doesn’t want to accidentally walk in on him blowing an authoritarian genocidal Pooh bear. It is perfectly understandable.
 

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I mean, why would Scholz endure all these political pressure back at home to make this trip, just so Macron can tag along and scoop up all the freebies without sticking his neck out.

Macron's presence would tremendously complicate the visit. Macron is actually head of state while Scholz is not, between the two China will have to give Macron preferential treatment. Having two people like that also sets the wrong tone as it feels like a gang trying to pressure China, instead of a one on one discussion between equal.

Of all the EU leaders Macron in many ways is the one best equipped for playing geopolitical games. He is the head of a P5 nation and alone wields the nuclear stick in EU. He actually has a non-negligible military backed by a fairly complete MIC unlike Scholz. Yet whenever he comes under a bit of pressure he does this:
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The Five Eyes steal his sub contract and he gets angry for like 3 days and back down. It's this aspect of him that I really dislike.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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I mean, why would Scholz endure all these political pressure back at home to make this trip, just so Macron can tag along and scoop up all the freebies without sticking his neck out.

Macron's presence would tremendously complicate the visit. Macron is actually head of state while Scholz is not, between the two China will have to give Macron preferential treatment. Having two people like that also sets the wrong tone as it feels like a gang trying to pressure China, instead of a one on one discussion between equal.

Of all the EU leaders Macron in many ways is the one best equipped for playing geopolitical games. He is the head of a P5 nation and alone wields the nuclear stick in EU. He actually has a non-negligible military backed by a fairly complete MIC unlike Scholz. Yet whenever he comes under a bit of pressure he does this:
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The Five Eyes steal his sub contract and he gets angry for like 3 days and back down. It's this aspect of him that I really dislike.
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Japan now getting fidgety. Seems like everyone's edging to meet the Celestial Emperor, even the descendants of the Sun God, the Nipponese.

It's like the busty beer girl from Bavaria secured the handsome jock, then now the Japanese Sailor Moon girl now getting a serious case of the jealous

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I don't even believe he said that. If Scholz said to Xi that Taiwan must be taken peacefully meaning that China must not use force, his meeting would have ended there and they would have sent him home with his bare ass rather than with "deals." What happened is that he actually either said nothing on Taiwan other than Germany's commitment to the one China policy or that he said he hopes to see Taiwan reunited peacefully. Then he told Western reporters that "I have ... made it clear that any change in Taiwan's status quo must be peaceful or by mutual agreement." I don't even know what the ... is supposed to be in that quote but knowing Western media's honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if it was to cut out, "not."
 
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ficker22

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I don't even believe he said that. If Scholz said to Xi that Taiwan must be taken peacefully meaning that China must not use force, his meeting would have ended there and they would have sent him home with his ass bare rather than with "deals." What happened is that he actually either said nothing on Taiwan other than Germany's commitment to the one China policy or that he said he hopes to see Taiwan reunited peacefully. Then he told Western reporters that "I have ... made it clear that any change in Taiwan's status quo must be peaceful or by mutual agreement." I don't even know what the ... is supposed to be in that quote but knowing Western media's honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if it was to cut out, "not."


He said countries support one china policy, but it is in responsibilty of beijing to conclude the taiwan question peacefully and with both parties involved.

Inbefore he did some back deals with Xi which obviously aren't given to the media.
 
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