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solarz

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And IMO Chinese Foreign Ministry made a mistake spreading conspiracy theories like trying to associate Fort Detrick with the orgin of Covid out of no where.

It wasn't out of nowhere, and why do you believe it's a conspiracy theory? Did the WHO actually investigate Fort Detrick and rule it out?

Oh wait, unlike the Chinese government, the US government refused to let the WHO investigate anything.
 

supersnoop

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Due to the grip of foreign capital in India, I think it is more likely we will see a new Raj rather than India liberating itself.

The Indians that pride themselves on foreign CEOs and foreign politicians in power is a perfect illustration of why India has fallen behind China in development. The method to measure developmental success should not be how well the 1% do, but how well the 99% are doing.

The literacy rate is still under 80%, which is better than the 50% or so during the 90’s, but still worse than China 20 years ago. These statistics become even scarier when looking at gender differences.
 

Biscuits

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Do you know what you are talking about? A june 2020 reuters article? Seriously? And did you even read the reuters article?

“The research has been submitted for a peer review.
” When it’s just one result, you always want more data, more studies, more samples to confirm it and rule out a laboratory error or a methodological problem,” he said.
There was the potential for a false positive due to the virus’ similarities with other respiratory infections.
But it’s definitely interesting, it’s suggestive,” Villalbi said.
...Prof. Gertjan Medema of the KWR Water Research Institute in the Netherlands, whose team began using a coronavirus test on waste water in February, suggested the Barcelona group needs to repeat the tests to confirm it is really the SARS-CoV-2 virus.”

Where's the result?
What i post is a July 2022 paper published in Science and if you are going to say that Science is

Then I don't even want to continue this conversation. You are simply ridiculus. What's the difference between you and those MAGAs?

And IMO Chinese Foreign Ministry made a mistake spreading conspiracy theories like trying to associate Fort Detrick with the orgin of Covid out of no where. You can't fool the educated people and intellectuals who can do their own research and made their own conclusions and this kind of unnecessary behaviour by chinese diplomats will do no good but only give them a bad reputation.
Rule number one : Occam's Razor.

China doesn't need to twist Covid origin. China did a very good job containing it. It doesn't matter what narrative western media trying to push.
BUT if China choses to spread unnecessary conspiracy theories instead of simply telling the truth, this is really the definition of lacking “四个自信“(four matters of confidence). The decision is probably made on the deputy minister level by some low self-confidence elders because I don't for a second believe Xi is that type of person.
Sigh you really want to make me do like an university assignment on overtime?

Alright:

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Now please post your science article, so we can read it and check if it's another of those quackery studies where a preconceived goal is set ("proving" covid came from China) rather than an honest study being done. You're a smart person I'm sure, you know the most foundational part of research is that you resaearch to get data and interpret data, you do not start out with a presumption and then twist data until it fits your starting presumption. Example, that quack article from Cambridge talking about Weibo searches of diarrhea to claim that China had covid in July but covered it up.

And of course quackery exists in the west. It was supported by John Hopkins University's global health Index that US is number 1 in the world at defending against pandemics. This turned out to be an American lie. When there is a big monetary incentive and a big incentive of face, people abandon principles. John Hopkins is an esteemed university that produces many highly talented doctors, but when your universities and governments are so closely tied, then your unscientific government can easily exploit good names to push their unscientific agenda.

I'm like those MAGAs? It ain't me who told WHO you're not allowed to come to our country, you're not allowed to go to Fort Derrick to look for covid. The world, including China, asked for access and was denied.

If there was nothing to hide why not let investigators come?

Sure? Chinese FM made a mistake spreading those "conspiracy theories"? Then America can humiliate China by opening Fort Derrick and showing us: there is nothing. Or at least let international scientists come and take IGG tests in December/January in America, prove there is no covid or past covid among the population.

There shouldn't be a single person with covid IGG pos in early January USA right?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Perhaps a bit of topic, but very relevant to whats happening now :)
This book explains a lot of the geopolitics between China and the US, I really like it .. balanced views, just finished reading it last night
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And he is Indian Singaporean who had lived in New York for ~10 years

Anybody interested ping me ....
what are your thoughts?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I was watching Morning Joe this morning and this is Joe Scarborough, former US congressman, and he's upset about Saudi Arabia and MBS are choosing Russia (and China) over the US asking why? If there was no Russia and China, Saudi Arabia would be under more scrutiny by the West and pressured to submit to Western demands. The West is waging an imperialist war of attrition. Their attention isn't on Saudi Arabia because there are bigger threats to Western supremacy than Saudi Arabia like China. The reason why the world is turning on the West is because China exists. China isn't under their control therefore gives other countries belief they can break their dependence from the West. What they aren't talking about is how the world's resources are no longer under the West's dominion. The West tried to take over the world because they had little in their own countries. The world is turning back to a time when the West had nothing of their own. The West needs those resources to maintain their first world lifestyle. That's why the West is in panic and are taking actions they never did before. They don't have the resources hence why Europe looks bleak this winter because they can't get the basics because they exist in countries they have no control over anymore. The fact is countries with resources the West needs make more money with the West not in control of them. The West is upset with Saudi Arabia because they want oil on the cheap. That says it all. What else does the West have to offer?
 
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