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The power of an ascendant civilization state - it's sheer gravity will accrete her diaspora back to the homeland.
Of course US doesn't know how to deal with this - in their short history they've pretty much only dealt with nation states and have never encounter an ascendant civilization state before.

If you look up this news on reddit you see people arguing over things like how some of those scientists are born in US 2nd or even further generation migrants and should be referred to as American and not Chinese. And so they don't understand how China can have this pull. They are missing the point. Being a Chinese national is about being a citizen of the nation state of PRC; being Chinese is about being part of the civilization state of China, the two are orthogonal. The whole thing about PRC is to bring about revitalizing China the civilization state, therefore when diaspora Chinese see this goal on the horizon they will of course be attracted to it regardless of which nation state they are a citizen of.
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The Chinese Nation 中華民族 consists of:
  • 56 ethnicities on the mainland
  • Taiwanese patriots
  • Hong Kong patriots
  • Macanese patriots
  • All patriotic descendants of Yandi and Huangdi regardless of residency or citizenship
If you fall into any of those groups, you owe your undying loyalty to the PRC (and by extension CPC), which is the sole and rightful inheritor of the one and indivisible Chinese Nation.
 
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If you look up this news on reddit you see people arguing over things like how some of those scientists are born in US 2nd or even further generation migrants and should be referred to as American and not Chinese. And so they don't understand how China can have this pull. They are missing the point. Being a Chinese national is about being a citizen of the nation state of PRC; being Chinese is about being part of the civilization state of China, the two are orthogonal. The whole thing about PRC is to bring about revitalizing China the civilization state, therefore when diaspora Chinese see this goal on the horizon they will of course be attracted to it regardless of which nation state they are a citizen of.
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Another reason is the intense, increasing sinophobia in the USA today. I live here and the anti-China fearmongering/hostility is as palpable as oxygen. It's literally everywhere.

When the govt and mainstream media repeatedly refer to you as a "communist spy", "traitor", "not American", etc. you will eventually start looking elsewhere. One country is openly hostile towards you, while another welcomes you with open arms and flowers. It's not surprising to see people choose the latter over the former.

I doubt the US govt would be introspective towards their own mistakes anytime soon. So they will continue to witchhunt ethnic Chinese scientists while simultaneously being ignorant as to why some are choosing to move back to China.

It's a repeat of Qian Xuesen all over again..
 
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It's more complicated than that. Yes they're all FLG however the media part of FLG and the religion part of FLG are fairly separate and do not get along together well. FLG inner cycle is joking referring to as "轮中央" and apparently have more scheming and political intrigue and backstabbing than Zhongnanhai, again proving true the saying whenever there's people there will be 江湖
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Can't tell if this is sarcasm or actually true :D
 
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The Indians have to be careful.

One of the world's largest Muslim nation, is India.

And we all know, with the hardline Hinduism the past few years, that ethnic difficulties exists in India. Not just between Hindus and Muslims, but also the Asiatic people in the northeast feel alienated from the Hindus.

Internally, there are divisions, and they are vulnerable.

China will not stir up the shit. China will just mumble something and Pakistan will go do it.

That is why, no one understands the Indians.

Here is a country that is relatively speaking, economically poor, militarily weak, and internally vulnerable.

Yet they talk like they are invincible, like a drunk.

I agree. India is a black hole, that its chances of survival in its current state may only be 50/50.

Best to leave it alone, if they leave it alone.
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Indian government has finest statesman compared to Europe. Let that sink in.
 
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The power of an ascendant civilization state - it's sheer gravity will accrete her diaspora back to the homeland.
Of course US doesn't know how to deal with this - in their short history they've pretty much only dealt with nation states and have never encounter an ascendant civilization state before.

If you look up this news on reddit you see people arguing over things like how some of those scientists are born in US 2nd or even further generation migrants and should be referred to as American and not Chinese. And so they don't understand how China can have this pull. They are missing the point. Being a Chinese national is about being a citizen of the nation state of PRC; being Chinese is about being part of the civilization state of China, the two are orthogonal. The whole thing about PRC is to bring about revitalizing China the civilization state, therefore when diaspora Chinese see this goal on the horizon they will of course be attracted to it regardless of which nation state they are a citizen of.
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Is it really that hard to understand? Even the terminology is blatant. Chinese-American, African-American, Native-America and so on. You will forever be something ‘other’ first and American second. No matter how many generations since your ancestors first emigrated or were abducted to America. So long as you are not white, you will forever be your skin colour first and American second. It’s not hard to decide to say ‘fuck it and fuck you’ to a place and people that will never fully accept you or your descendants and go to somewhere where you will not forever be the outsider. Especially when you get better pay and perks.
 
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It's more complicated than that. Yes they're all FLG however the media part of FLG and the religion part of FLG are fairly separate and do not get along together well. FLG inner cycle is joking referring to as "轮中央" and apparently have more scheming and political intrigue and backstabbing than Zhongnanhai, again proving true the saying whenever there's people there will be 江湖
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But does it have more political intrigue and backstabbing than Washington or Kiev though? That's the ultimate question.

@SinoSoldier do you ever try to go back a couple of pages when you get on this forum? This is on the same level of stupidity as the claim last month that tanks are being sent to crush bank protestors.
 
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Widespread support in Congress for pumping aid to Ukraine is starting to show signs of fracturing as many Republicans in the House question whether the money would be better spent combating China and tackling economic problems facing the U.S., according to a dozen lawmakers and congressional staff from both parties.

As November’s midterm elections approach, the continuing flow of aid is falling out of favor with many House Republicans who are struggling to justify the overseas spending to their constituents in the midst of domestic concerns including high inflation and economic uncertainty. That might intensify if Republicans, as expected, win a majority in the House starting in January.

Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R., La.) and conference chair Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.) the second- and third-highest ranking House Republicans, recently declined to commit when asked publicly whether they would continue providing aid to Ukraine should Republicans take control.

“There are a lot of members that want to see more accountability in the Department of Defense and more of a focus on the threats that are out there,” Mr. Scalise told reporters earlier this month. “China is moving very aggressively to build up a naval fleet, and right now our naval fleet is in decline.”
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