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4Runner

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OK, so basically, everyone else here understands that hatred and hostility while constantly trying to undermine each other at every endeavor counts as emnity while you define an enemy as only a person who is trying to physically kill you.

Your argument is with the dictionary then, Google the word:

Enemy
  1. a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.
As I said in an earlier post, there are lots of divorces nowadays in China that produce enemies between husbands and wives according your quoted definition above. But that is not the same when it comes to national enmity as we are talking about. Just like the notion of money. When people on the Nanjing Road talking about money for shopping, they are talking about a totally different thing from what the PBOC staff are talking about money to the politburo.
 

manqiangrexue

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As I said in an earlier post, there are lots of divorces nowadays in China that produce enemies between husbands and wives according your quoted definition above.
As I said before, that's total nonsense. It's trolling. The existence of personal enemies does nothing to negate international emnity. If you hate your ex and she hates you and you spend a good amount of time thinking about how to make each other's lives miserable, you are absolutely personal enemies.
But that is not the same when it comes to national enmity as we are talking about.
Yes, it's the same but on a smaller scale. Murders happen too when things get out of hand just like wars.
Just like the notion of money. When people on the Nanjing Road talking about money for shopping, they are talking about a totally different thing from what the PBOC staff are talking about money to the politburo.
And this is a totally different thing from what anybody is talking about here. This is totally trolling. Your whole post is literary diarrhea.
 

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To be fair, the murderous tendencies are not rooted in racism against Asians alone. The USA does all kinds of crazy sh*t, but somehow people like that CNN guy who was interviewing Roger Waters a few pages back will still believe that they have some mandate of heaven to be liberators and

This is just a talking point. I doubt he believes that. You have to remember many of these people are propagandists. Do you really think these "reporters" care about "anti blackness in China" (because some "racist" Chinese man looked at a black man for 3 seconds?) while they slaughter Blacks on the streets on video? Do you really think these "reporters" care about the "genocide of 9 trillion wiggers In xinjiang" while they carry out multiple invasions and genocides across multiple Muslim nations and send them to black torture sites?


Canadians are literally not their own people, so they just tested Agent Orange on them
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What Al White said he witnessed that morning three decades back was the burial of leftover Agent Orange, the notorious chemical defoliant linked to various types of cancer that was used in secret spraying experiments by the U.S. at the Gagetown military base in New Brunswick — something which would blow up into a major public policy issue 20 years later.

This is a super weak example to use. This shows more corporate greed than racism. In contrast, how many millions of Vietnamese are permanently poisoned by agent orange due to mass spraying by Caucasian Americans? Go search the birth defects if you can stomach it. Hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese died from the effects alone.

I remember whenever members would point things like this out to "Clubber Lang", he would answer, "That was a long time ago, things are different now". Of course this is true, we can't go back to change the past. However, does this mean in another 10 years, China can say, "well, you said it was Uighur genocide, we never agreed, but it's too long ago now".

This is typical Caucasian gaslighting and false.

They were imperialists. They still are imperialists. For example, France colonized Africa. They are still doing it today.

They committed genocide against First Nations people. They are still doing it now

They waged biological warfare against China 70 years ago. They just did it again recently with the coronavirus/covid19.

They tried to overthrow the CPC by funding terrorists/separatists in Tibet 70 years ago. They just tried again at Tiananmen Square in 1989, Xinjiang, HK, and Taiwan more recently.

They enslaved black people hundreds of years ago. They're still doing today but disguise it as for profit prison labor blacks and other "undesirables" are locked up for petty crime and enslaved for pennies per hour.

They were overthrowing foreign governments, many were democracies. They are still doing it now.

They lied with the press to manufacture consent for wars like the Gulf of Tonkin incident. They still do it today with fake wmd in Iraq.

The CIA used to do a lot of this evil crap. Now they got a facelift and call it the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Didn't know K9 had also recently sold to Australia and Egypt
Interesting...
The difficulty for South Korea is that their arms dealings at some point will be limited to countries deemed friendly to the US. This is what happens with Israel and EU already.

I wonder if they will pass China...

Here is a silly quote


Literally cope! Not only that, who are they arming facing "Chinese aggression"? Philippines? The country whose last president was seen handling Chinese weapons and taking Chinese vaccines and saying they are great?
It's just useless feel good nonsense man.. The entire budget of the Philippines in fiscal year of 2021 was about $96-98 BILLION so how exactly is the country with a myriad of societal, economic, education, health care etc. issues can spend more or prioritize spending on defense just so it can fight against their biggest trading partner? If that's not stupidity or extreme retardation then I don't know what is.

The hardcore pro-America Filipinos have been inducing themselves with shabu that it has literally made their faculties dried up prunes because they assume that America will rescue their behinds just as they had romanticized MacArthur's landing in Leyte fulfilling his spiel of "I shall return."

But what most Filipinos can't seem to understand or comprehend is the appreciation or lack thereof China's GNP, military strength, industrial might etc.... not to mention lacking in understanding the realities of modern warfare that will make what happened in Manila during WWII against Imperial Japan look like a picnic. In other words, people there are being swayed by unrealistic, unreasonable expectations that will be shattered when the conflict and missiles arrive. Luckily, the leadership of that country is not insane or stupid.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Fair rebuttal. But with magnitude of seriousness in discussing or debating on US/China wars, the essence of enemy, rivalry, competitor etc. is vastly different. On the subject, two are competitors, yes as always. Two are rivalries, definitely yes since 2009. Two are enemies? Not yet, by a wide margin. The Chinese have not engaged in a meaningful war over 42 years. Most Chinese may have a fictional sense of war. But the reality is that, any meaningful war between US/China is going to be a MAD situation, as human history teaches us. Therefore, as a Chinese, for ancestry sake, read the Art of War again and stay cool on MAD.
Enemy is decided unilaterally. If someone else treats you as an enemy, then whether you like it or not, respond or not, you are their enemy.

You can decline to treat them as an enemy at your own risk. But right now the situation is, in an analogy, some angry whte kid buying guns, circling the school in his lifted pickup while wielding said guns, firing warning shots, writing a manifesto, bragging that he'll be out after "it" in a few years in juvie, etc.

The principal can, of course, choose to not call the police, say that this is just a troubled young boy, and tell the students to not be afraid. That choice is most unwise.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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An interesting take from India's FM Jaishankar on soft power where India is already very strong in Central Asia, Africa etc.. Was not remotely aware of India's strong soft power influence on those countries/regions


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Jai Hind.
 
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