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xypher

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Results don't matter. What matters is that Superpowa India gonna be so proud that Germany is adopting their 'technology'. Jai Hind!
India #1 trade partner of Germany soon. Imagine the next energy crisis headlines - "Germany scrambling to keep its industries online after India's cow dung export ban".
 

Chish

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If the PLA can force the plane to leave or divert without firing first, then the USN will not engage even in international airspace is my assertion.

If the PLA can devise a plan to do that, then it would be a win for China. If not, I believe China will back down, it's trap as you pointed out and I think the CPC is wise enough to swallow this dead rat and the public would understand.
This event will supercharge a massive overhaul of China budgets and planning for the coming years. China still needs a decade of positive economic growth and modernization to be on par with US in all fields. For the US, everything is not going right at the moment, so there is a reluctance on both sides to go kinetic but US is in desperation . China would definitely be making strategic decisions while delaying or avoiding a hot war for the unification. Decisions that would hurt the US. Timing and quiet preparations are to China advantage while leaving Pelosi to brag aloud.
 

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Blaszczak should be careful about his statement. It's not Russia he has to worry about. The US had just lost out on this mega deal, how would they take it? America could interpret Poland as doing a deal with South Korea behind their backs.
Poland hasnot accepted Euro and they are deviating too much from Western EU consensus.
Poland will end up like Turkey with uncontrol inflation and competent people fleeing.

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That's a big coup for the South Korean defense industry. Usually, deals of this magnitude are won by the USA or Russia. The South Koreans are gonna be very smug about this defense deal.

So is this the Jai Poland agenda that the Polish leadership is talking about? I wonder if the Polish economy can hang-on till 2026.


Blaszczak should be careful about his statement. It's not Russia he has to worry about. The US had just lost out on this mega deal, how would they take it? America could interpret Poland as doing a deal with South Korea behind their backs.


C'mon are you gonna play white supremacy with the Koreans? Must be the butthurt that the British and the US failed land a mega defense deal like this.

America could tolerate South Korea taking some small slices of the defense market pie. But now that South Korea managed to land a mega defense deal, its gonna attract some American envy. America hates to share, even if you are its ally. Could America sanction the South Korean defense industry one day? Its not as far-fetched as it sounds.
I don't think the deal would have happened without daddy US okaying it, so all is fine.
 
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taxiya

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CN do nothing every time US send arms to taiwan but we are supposed to believe they will really escalate because of Pelosi ? Biden should just stop Pelosi from going to taiwan but should announce a big military shipments to Taiwan just after talking with Xi: Get something real for giving up something symbolic. Unless CN can deter US from selling arms to Taiwan, all this fuss about Pelosi visit is rather amusing
China does nothing to the arms sell because that was NOT technically violating the agreement when US and China established relationship.

The agreement said that US should reduce the sell over time, but there was no time limit, nor how fast. This means China wish and expect US to reduce to zero eventually, but does not enforce the reduction or enforce a blockade if it keeps happening.

However, the agreement did oblige the US NOT to maintain any official relationship with Taiwan. Pelosi's proposed visit is in official capacity, that makes US breaking the agreement therefor legally breaking the diplomatic recognition of the two countries, meaning war is a possibility not just rhetoric, therefor you are supposed to believe that China will escalate.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I don't think the deal would have happened without daddy US okaying it, so all fine.
The U.S. okayed it in exchange for the CHIP4 program they're pushing to the South Koreans. Is thus deal worth it for the South Korean overall economic future? And is this deal sustainable or even enough to make up for the potential loss to the massive Chinese market and their biggest trading partner?
 
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