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zhangjim

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Your source is Zhihu? That's even less trustworthy than your posts. :)
The government exported some duplicate relics and other artifacts which weren't deemed very high cultural value to earn foreign exchange. This is totally different than artifacts like that buddha, don't muddy the water. Next time please try harder before smearing China here.
Yeah you memory isn’t that great and have a tendency to generalize. It‘s very specific in which can and can’t be exported.

In the same year, the Cultural Heritage Bureau formulated the Standards for the Appraisal of Cultural Relics Export, which determined two boundaries of 1911 and 1795 (60 years of Qianlong) according to the situation of different cultural relics. Those cultural repetitive and of average value can be exported in an organized and planned way to obtain foreign exchange for the country. The Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Foreign Trade also issued the "Several Opinions on the Export Appraisal Standards of Cultural Relics" on July 12, 1960, stipulating that there are two different years for the planned and organized export of cultural relics: - partly limited to 1795, and all those before 1795 (limited to the 60th year of Qianlong in the Qing Dynasty) are not allowed to be exported; - Partly limited to 1911 (i.e., before Xinhai, the third year of Xuantong in the Qing Dynasty), and the export shall be prohibited. Cultural relics after the above two years can be exported according to the scientific, historical, artistic value and stock of the cultural relics themselves. All ports are required to be basically similar when mastering the appraisal standards and controlling the width and strict scale.
I just want to explain the consequences of the serious neglect of cultural relics protection in the past for a long time. Although it was clearly stipulated that only low-value cultural relics were allowed to be exported, Shen Congwen(沈从文) still intercepted a batch of high-grade silk fabrics from the customs.

For a long time, the management of the Palace Museum was not as strict as you thought.For example, the cotton in the armor of the Qing Dynasty was taken out and distributed to the employees, and some fragments that were "considered unimportant" were also distributed to the employees.
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That is the most important national museum.You can see how careless people were about the importance of cultural relics in the past.

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"have no choice",this article says.Sence the policy is loosened, many things that you can't imagine will happen.


The smuggled buddha statues have nothing to do with these things.But it shows the severity of the loss of cultural relics in the past.Once the government has shown a careless and conniving attitude, then the private crime of cultural relics smuggling is bound to be very rampant.
 
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Biden Expects to Speak With China’s Xi Within Next 10 Days​

  • US official downplays role of tariffs in first call in months
  • Tensions rose after China refused to condemn Ukraine invasion

“I think I’ll be talking to President Xi within the next 10 days,” Biden said Wednesday, speaking to reporters after a trip to Massachusetts to discuss his climate agenda. “I expect to.”
An administration official downplayed the role tariffs will play in the discussion, which the official described as a potential call. The conversation would be about a range of bilateral, regional and global issues and not connected to the tariff process, the official said. The official asked not to be identified because the call hasn’t been scheduled.
Biden demurred when asked about the duties. “I’ll tell him to have a good day,” he said.
There’s no call to announce or confirm right now, a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council said after Biden’s remarks.
Bold of Joe to assume Xi will pick up the phone, maybe this call is after WWIII starts?
 

xlitter

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I just want to explain the consequences of the serious neglect of cultural relics protection in the past for a long time. Although it was clearly stipulated that only low-value cultural relics were allowed to be exported, Shen Congwen(沈从文) still intercepted a batch of high-grade silk fabrics from the customs.

For a long time, the management of the Palace Museum was not as strict as you thought.For example, the cotton in the armor of the Qing Dynasty was taken out and distributed to the employees, and some fragments that were "considered unimportant" were also distributed to the employees.
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That is the most important national museum.You can see how careless people were about the importance of cultural relics in the past.

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"have no choice",this article says.Sence the policy is loosened, many things that you can't imagine will happen.


The smuggled buddha statues have nothing to do with these things.But it shows the severity of the loss of cultural relics in the past.Once the government has shown a careless and conniving attitude, then the private crime of cultural relics smuggling is bound to be very rampant.
Wangyi and Zhihu have a bad reputation in China with a history of false information, and the information on them should be carefully identified as they contain a lot of intentionally misleading information.
 

zhangjim

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Wangyi and Zhihu have a bad reputation in China with a history of false information, and the information on them should be carefully identified as they contain a lot of intentionally misleading information.
Then I'm afraid only academic papers and historical materials can prove everything. But I don't think it's meaningful to do such a serious deviation from the topic.
 

duncanidaho

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I just want to explain that it is very difficult to solve the cultural relics smuggling case.
There are too many inexplicable reasons to hinder the return process of cultural relics.As the example I cited, even if there is a clear testimony pointing to a specific Korean buyer, there is no possibility of solving the case at all under the influence of nationalism and the identity and status of the person involved.

If the Dutch buyer strictly kept secret, it would be difficult for others to prove that he bought stolen goods.

Looted relics are looted relics!

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Thre is absolutely no difficult to solve such case!
 

Sleepyjam

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I just want to explain the consequences of the serious neglect of cultural relics protection in the past for a long time. Although it was clearly stipulated that only low-value cultural relics were allowed to be exported, Shen Congwen(沈从文) still intercepted a batch of high-grade silk fabrics from the customs.

For a long time, the management of the Palace Museum was not as strict as you thought.For example, the cotton in the armor of the Qing Dynasty was taken out and distributed to the employees, and some fragments that were "considered unimportant" were also distributed to the employees.
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That is the most important national museum.You can see how careless people were about the importance of cultural relics in the past.

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"have no choice",this article says.Sence the policy is loosened, many things that you can't imagine will happen.


The smuggled buddha statues have nothing to do with these things.But it shows the severity of the loss of cultural relics in the past.Once the government has shown a careless and conniving attitude, then the private crime of cultural relics smuggling is bound to be very rampant.
So now you are going to bring up individual cases of illegal activity as proof of government policy? From your source it said the exports were low value items that were strictly controlled and in a small quantity and the exports were stopped in 1995 all according to policy. These crimes have nothing to do with policy but a mix result of education, economics and enforcement.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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For Taiwanese, this is not a problem.
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They are trying to prove that the White House cannot intervene in Pelosi's actions.
Taiwan is just a pawn. If anything happens, it would still have to go between Beijing and Washington DC. Taipei is merely a side factor.

Besides, it is the Pentagon who disagrees with Pelosi's plan of visiting Taiwan. Biden did not.

Why? Because Pentagon would be forced to "carry the pot" (背锅) in case the confrontation between the US military and PLA goes hot.
 
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Sleepyjam

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Then I'm afraid only academic papers and historical materials can prove everything. But I don't think it's meaningful to do such a serious deviation from the topic.
Not that you haven’t already considering that it was originally about the shady Dutch guy which you admitted has nothing to do with this.
According to the article I shared, this kind of sales activity will not stop until 1995.
Which I stated already, reading comprehension.
 

Nutrient

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War is (almost) an inevitability at this point. No hegemon will tolerate a rising superpower
As you said, war is almost inevitable. According to Graham Allison, the originator of the term
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, when a reigning hegemon attempted to suppress a rising power, war happened 12 of 16 times. So war between the USA and China is quite likely but not unavoidable.

For example, the rivalry between the US and the USSR (the Cold War) did not cause a global hot war. Something similar can happen in the US/China contest. There's some hope for those of us who want to live.
 
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