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emblem21 said:

ok guys, I am not to sure but I keep on hearing about this being overturned, I am very curious as to what is going to happen because for some reason I am getting the feeling that someone is intentionally trying to bring the USA down one scandal at a time

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Now that US has put itself on the path to banning abortion, there's been people comparing them to abortion rights under Islamic fundamentalism.


So let's see what actually Islamic countries have for abortion law.

emblem21 said:

ok guys, I am not to sure but I keep on hearing about this being overturned, I am very curious as to what is going to happen because for some reason I am getting the feeling that someone is intentionally trying to bring the USA down one scandal at a time

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Roe vs Wade decision has granted the constitution rights of abortion. That means States can't ban abortions without very good justifications and causes. Overturning Roe vs Wade means all states now have the legal rights to make their own abortion laws. Since many states are conservative, that means an outright bans of abortions would happen in many states. Last I checked, at least 26 states would ban abortions and a few more would probably ban abortions.

Overbom said:

Yeah.. Sorry but not happening.

Inviting Iran but not Saudi Arabia wouldn't work for China. Its like a slap on MBS face that he would invite Iran over Saudi Arabia lol. I mean I can see why, Russia has its own interests, but in this case China wouldn't accommodate it.

As it has been repeatedly emphasised by Chinese officials, China considers Saudi Arabia as its' principal partner in the Middle East. From China's perspective everything starts from it, and then flows outwards to the region

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China invited Iran to make a speach at BRICS. i dont think China can compete with Eurabia.
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Kinda sobering to think that pretty soon guns will have more rights than women in America.

President Abdelmadjid Tebboune of Algeria, President Alberto Fernandez of Argentina, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi of Egypt, President Joko Widodo of Indonesia, President Seyyed Ebrahim Raeisi of Iran, President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan, President Vladimir Putin of Russia, President Macky Sall of Senegal, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, President Shavkat Mirziyoyev of Uzbekistan, Vice President Hamilton Mourao of Brazil, Prime Minister Hun Sen of Cambodia, Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed Ali of Ethiopia, Prime Minister Josaia Voreqe Bainimarama of Fiji, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India, Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob of Malaysia, and Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of Thailand attended the Dialogue.

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FairAndUnbiased said:

To be fair Iran has 1+ trillion USD economy while Saudi doesn't (yet, projected to get there by end of this year). So it has more economic weight in an economic group. All of the NG8 are 1+ trillion USD economies... Or were, until Turkish Lira devaluated so much it fell below $1 trillion.

But then the political meaning is questionable. if US treaty allies like Turkey and Mexico can be invited then what is the point? Or hostile states like India for that matter?

If it's just "collection of strong economies outside G8" then might as well invite South Korea.

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I don't think Iran is a $1 trillion+ USD economy. Yeah, Wiki says they were $1.74 trillion in 2021 but I don't get where those numbers actually come from because that would mean Iran had larger economy (even if in nominal terms) than Russia in 2021. This does not sound probable at all, considering the inability of Iran to export much and shallow internal market. Google's latest figures for 2019 indicate that they had $191 billion economy back then, I doubt Iran's GDP grew 9x times in just three years, especially considering the pandemic which hit Iran pretty hard.

UPD: Yeah, pretty sure the number is bullshit - it appears that the IMF is using the official exchange rate to convert the GDP into USD, which is useless as you cannot freely convert money with that exchange rate. Using the mean actual exchange rates gives Iran a GDP of around $238 billion in 2021, which is plausible.

I can't believe I am saying this but I don't think we should take Biden seriously. He is well over his retirement age. He can literally say anything at this point. He needs reminders to say hello and take his seat.

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xypher said:

I don't think Iran is a $1 trillion+ USD economy. Yeah, Wiki says they were $1.74 trillion in 2021 but I don't get where those numbers actually come from because that would mean Iran had larger economy (even if in nominal terms) than Russia in 2021. This does not sound probable at all, considering the inability of Iran to export much and shallow internal market. Google's latest figures for 2019 indicate that they had $191 billion economy back then, I doubt Iran's GDP grew 9x times in just three years, especially considering the pandemic which hit Iran pretty hard.

UPD: Yeah, pretty sure the number is bullshit - it appears that the IMF is using the official exchange rate to convert the GDP into USD, which is useless as you cannot freely convert money with that exchange rate. Using the mean actual exchange rates gives Iran a GDP of around $238 billion in 2021, which is plausible.

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Then it makes even less sense to invite Iran, but not inviting the Saudis makes sense. Inviting random countries with weak ideological connections and different economic development levels simply weakens the group as a whole, because now you have to make concessions to them.

xypher said:

I don't think Iran is a $1 trillion+ USD economy. Yeah, Wiki says they were $1.74 trillion in 2021 but I don't get where those numbers actually come from because that would mean Iran had larger economy (even if in nominal terms) than Russia in 2021. This does not sound probable at all, considering the inability of Iran to export much and shallow internal market. Google's latest figures for 2019 indicate that they had $191 billion economy back then, I doubt Iran's GDP grew 9x times in just three years, especially considering the pandemic which hit Iran pretty hard.

UPD: Yeah, pretty sure the number is bullshit - it appears that the IMF is using the official exchange rate to convert the GDP into USD, which is useless as you cannot freely convert money with that exchange rate. Using the mean actual exchange rates gives Iran a GDP of around $238 billion in 2021, which is plausible.

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Iran's GDP numbers are not very reliable as both Iran and the west fabricate numbers in an information war. The exchange rate is also part of the economic war. PPP and raw industrial production numbers are much more interesting. What's clear is that Iran is an industrialised nation similar to Turkey, but they happen to have lots of oil and gas. Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Iraq are agricultural societies with lots of petro dollars. For example, Iran is the second largest car and steel producer in West Asia, after Turkey. Iran even developed the capability to launch satellites into orbit before South Korea.

The G7 countries often describe themselves as the leading industrialised nations. In reality, they are post industrial societies. What really matters for the power of a nation in a war are traditional metrics. Coal and steel production, manufacturing capacity, fertiliser and ammunition production capacity etc. If Russia is proposing a list of industrialised nations that are not aligned with the west, Iran makes sense as the weakest one among them. Petro states with little human capital or industrial power do not belong in such a group.

BoraTas said:

I can't believe I am saying this but I don't think we should take Biden seriously. He is well over his retirement age. He can literally say anything at this point. He needs reminders to say hello and take his seat.

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At what point does this constitute elder abuse?