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Kabir

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Europe wanted Russia against China. It is their only hope in winning a war against China. I said it before but the German Navy Chief also said the same thing as Le Pen. Now the Neocons/Right-Wing are foaming at their mouths that their grand strategy of a blockade is quickly turning into a pile of dust.
I would be interested to know the plan. Would she prevent the bloc by putting her hands in middle or any other way?
 

FriedButter

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I would be interested to know the plan. Would she prevent the bloc by putting her hands in middle or any other way?

Without Washington approval then nothing. Plus it won’t work anyway. The West went so far on Russian xenophobia that Russian public opinion is against the West now. Only chance they got is to make a false flag attack on Russia by acting like they are Chinese PLA.

“Imagine we do nothing to prevent a situation in which the largest country in the world unites with the country with the largest population. We will allow the largest world producer of raw materials – Russia – to unite with the largest ‘factory’ of the planet – China – perhaps we will let them become the number one military force in the world. I think this is a big danger. Therefore, it is necessary to use diplomatic measures, when the war is over, when the peace agreement is signed, to avoid this unification, which can become a threat to us in the 21st century,” Le Pen said.

The West knows they royalty fucked up so badly. Le Pen is hoping they can lure Russia back with diplomatic measures but after the onslaught of total economic warfare. Zero chance the Russians ever look West again for the next few generations.
 

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Fertilizer producer says UP shipment restrictions could threaten crops​

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| April 18, 2022
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Union Pacific Curtails Fertilizer Shipments, Delaying Deliveries
On Friday, April 8, 2022, Union Pacific informed CF Industries without advance notice that it was mandating certain shippers to reduce the volume of private cars on its railroad effective immediately. The Company was told to reduce its shipments by nearly 20%… However, because Union Pacific has told the Company that noncompliance will result in the embargo of its facilities by the railroad, CF Industries may not have available shipping capacity to take new rail orders involving Union Pacific rail lines to meet late season demand for fertilizer.

SMH. I swear the Biden Admin has to going on malicious intent now.

The US fertilizer company is being told by the federal gov to reduce shipment by 20% or they will embargo them from the railroads.

Is the Whitehouse really intent on going green by any means necessary? Including forced depopulation? Lmao.
 
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bajingan

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Without Washington approval then nothing. Plus it won’t work anyway. The West went so far on Russian xenophobia that Russian public opinion is against the West now. Only chance they got is to make a false flag attack on Russia by acting like they are Chinese PLA.
How is that supposed to work i wonder? Will the u.s find as many asian americans as it can find, and send them on a suicide mission to ukraine to fight russia and then claimed they were PLA troops, or find hanjian pilots and get them to fly kamikaze mission on a soviet era mig-29s painted in a PLAAF insignia? Those are the only way i can think of lol
 

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How is that supposed to work i wonder? Will the u.s find as many asian americans as it can find, and send them on a suicide mission to ukraine to fight russia and then claimed they were PLA troops, or find hanjian pilots and get them to fly kamikaze mission on a soviet era mig-29s painted in a PLAAF insignia? Those are the only way i can think of lol
I don't think that will work anymore, with the use accusation of genocide and false flag by the West against Russia in Ukraine, the Russian population likely would just dismiss it as CIA propaganda or false flag. Besides, the Russian government and intelligence organization would be working with Chinese officials and intelligence agents, so the trust and communication between the two would be able to clear this event out.
 
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FriedButter

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How is that supposed to work i wonder? Will the u.s find as many asian americans as it can find, and send them on a suicide mission to ukraine to fight russia and then claimed they were PLA troops, or find hanjian pilots and get them to fly kamikaze mission on a soviet era mig-29s painted in a PLAAF insignia? Those are the only way i can think of lol

Well. There is Trump strategy lol.

Donald Trump said the US should put the Chinese flag on F-22 jets and “bomb the shit out of Russia” in retribution for its invasion of Ukraine.

“And then we say, ‘China did it, we didn’t do it, China did it,’ and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch.”

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How is that supposed to work i wonder? Will the u.s find as many asian americans as it can find, and send them on a suicide mission to ukraine to fight russia and then claimed they were PLA troops, or find hanjian pilots and get them to fly kamikaze mission on a soviet era mig-29s painted in a PLAAF insignia? Those are the only way i can think of lol

Maybe we are viewing this crap all wrong.

Like the whole damn thing.

You know those CIA manuals on interrogation?

According to the CIA, the entire purpose of interrogation is not to beat the crap out of people, the point of interrogation is to induce regression.

If the interview of a prisoner goes well enough, then the induced regression would turned the prisoner back to its true self, a simple child because the regression was that effective, they would be in a fetal position in the corner, crying for mama.

What we are seeing out of the Western politician and media is nutz.

Back to regression. Regression is to go back to what the prisoner relies on. The interrogation is suppose to induce stress to do that.

Well, there is another European war. A lot of people are freaking out.

This could be regression for Western politician and their media. When under this much stress, they regress.

What do they regress to? Their true nature.

What is their true nature? They are lawyers and newspaper columnist.

So what are they and what are they doing now? Does it not seem all they are trying to do is talk their way out of their perceived problems?

Maybe the shock and stress of the Russian Ukraine war, has induced regression in the American chattering class, and their true nature of non-stop talk about nothing is being revealed.

They keep talking, yet do nothing.

In their minds they believe they are doing something.

Seems though that the CIA manual is correct about inducing regression and the prisoner will mentally retreat.

:D:oops:
 

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If an adversary did this to the US, they would call it a war crime. The West is emphasizing how Russia is conducting their war as a war crime pointing to the suffering of civilians. It's war and that's what happens but the US doesn't see itself inflicting this onto other countries because they don't talk about it and the Western media obliges. The difference is what I heard how a US congressman explain when China makes an anti-aircraft missile, it's designed to kill the pilot while when the US makes an anti-aircraft missile, it's designed to destroy the aircraft. Another US congressman said that China makes nuclear weapons that are purely designed to kill American children.
I don't see anything wrong with their propaganda since we are in the middle of an information war . They have the right to control the narrative since they own the platforms. It is up to China, Russia, and others to come up with their own global platforms and disseminate the messaging they want.
Expecting fairness is to be naive
 

emblem21

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I don't see anything wrong with their propaganda since we are in the middle of an information war . They have the right to control the narrative since they own the platforms. It is up to China, Russia, and others to come up with their own global platforms and disseminate the messaging they want.
Expecting fairness is to be naive
True, in the end, the only thing that can get through to those sheep is simply the end result, that Russia has taken the east side of Ukraine, the side that actually matters and has left all the refugees from Ukraine to crowd into Europe to wreck everything, especially when food and gas is in low supply. That is something that no amount of government media is going to hide or fix. If the west thinks that achieving wins on the media stage is somehow going to translate to a victory on the real life stage, they should be forewarned that should these shortages happen, no nation that has these items has any obligation to pick up the slack and in the end, the media will become useless. History is written by the victors after all and if Russia and China win in the real life stage, expect these liars in the media to be dealt with in a final manner that no one will have any obligation to save them from.
To me, propaganda is all well and good, but lying too much tends to have some serious consequences at the end of the day
 
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