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ACuriousPLAFan

Brigadier
Registered Member
Is this a confirmation that America won't defend Taiwan militarily?

I'd take that deal. Conquer Taiwan, demilitarise them, and leave a PLA garrison in place. Have a one country two systems in place, and soon the Americans will stop their sanctions.
...and set up a PLAN base in the Zuoying District, taking over the base there that is currently used by the ROCN.

Having a strong PLAN presence in Taiwan would send a clear, glaring message to anyone on the island who still dreamt of licking their Western colonial master's boots would save them.

Should any Taiwanese decides to wage gureilla warfare from the mountain ranges against the PLA liberators, they will be blasted into ashes.

Besides, having a permanent PLAN base on Taiwan would signal that any attempt by the US Navy-&-Co. to "contain" the PLAN in the First Island Chain has been truely broken. PLAN's access to the Western Pacific from mainland China would become unrestricted from now on.
 

coolgod

Major
Registered Member
...and set up a PLAN base in the Zuoying District, taking over the base there that is currently used by the ROCN.

Having a strong PLAN presence in Taiwan would send a clear, glaring message to anyone on the island who still dreamt of licking their Western colonial master's boots would save them.

Should any Taiwanese decides to wage gureilla warfare from the mountain ranges against the PLA liberators, they will be blasted into ashes.

Besides, having a permanent PLAN base on Taiwan would signal that any attempt by the US Navy-&-Co. to "contain" the PLAN in the First Island Chain has been truely broken. PLAN's access to the Western Pacific from mainland China would become unrestricted from now on.
You might as well go all the way and reunite, why bother to only take over one base.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
We all knew that, which is why i was calling for a significant military spending increase

This is one instance where American critics might actually be warranted when they accuse China of understating defence spending.

Just look at all the new hardware China has been pumping out in the last two decades. Even with troop numbers reductions and ‘China price’ to offset things, it’s frankly hard to believe they could have added so many new top of the line platforms across the board as they have been able to manage with the official defence budget.

Unlike the west, China will not outright lie, so what’s more likely is that the additional costs are spread around rather than all being marked as military spending.

Take the naval modernisation and expansion as maybe the most obvious example where the official defence budget spending could be vastly understated.

Because the bulk of the warship building happened during the lean years after the 08 financial crash when world commercial shipbuilding contracts dried up, it would not be unreasonable for China to apportion a significant proportion of the costs of the new warship construction as job retention welfare programme expenditure to help the shipyards keep highly skilled and difficult to replace workers employed during those years.

This can essentially apply across the board throughout the supply chain, since most if not all of them are Chinese SOEs.

So the SOEs could deliberately undercharge other SOEs in the supply chain and recoup the difference in the form of other government budgets to keep the costs going against the military budget down to avoid showing a huge spike in defence spending in real time.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Hu is on it.
"Playing with fire"

"Pelosi is playing with fire, so is the US. There must be serious consequences for her visit."

The US political establishment is the gift that just keeps on giving.

Perfect pretext for China to officially economically support Russia and openly muse offering military assistance and link everything to this visit when the Euros complain.
 

Michaelsinodef

Senior Member
Registered Member
This is one instance where American critics might actually be warranted when they accuse China of understating defence spending.

Just look at all the new hardware China has been pumping out in the last two decades. Even with troop numbers reductions and ‘China price’ to offset things, it’s frankly hard to believe they could have added so many new top of the line platforms across the board as they have been able to manage with the official defence budget.

Unlike the west, China will not outright lie, so what’s more likely is that the additional costs are spread around rather than all being marked as military spending.

Take the naval modernisation and expansion as maybe the most obvious example where the official defence budget spending could be vastly understated.

Because the bulk of the warship building happened during the lean years after the 08 financial crash when world commercial shipbuilding contracts dried up, it would not be unreasonable for China to apportion a significant proportion of the costs of the new warship construction as job retention welfare programme expenditure to help the shipyards keep highly skilled and difficult to replace workers employed during those years.

This can essentially apply across the board throughout the supply chain, since most if not all of them are Chinese SOEs.

So the SOEs could deliberately undercharge other SOEs in the supply chain and recoup the difference in the form of other government budgets to keep the costs going against the military budget down to avoid showing a huge spike in defence spending in real time.
I've been a rather big advocate for China most likely 'hiding' a lot of their real military spending so as to not 'alarm' US and its allies, not to mention even the real 'cost' of what the US pays is obscured as well (many estimates puts it above 1 Trillion, so like more than ~30% of the official reported number).
 
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