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KYli

Brigadier
How big of a chance is there that this south Korean far right guy is a duterte. Run with a anti China program because it works well then still have to accept the economic and geopolitical reality that you can't ignore China.

Because losing China means ASEAN nation or Japan take their share of the pie. While you get deindustealized and become poor.
Before Ukraine conflict, SK joining Quad and putting additional THAAD probably would be a major issue. However, due to the geopolitical tsunami of Ukraine conflict, any the political realignment should be expected. I would say preparing the worst case scenario is upmost important now. SK conservative winning the presidency only makes it more urgent.

Other than that, SK itself doesn't pose much of a threat from military or economy or politically. As you know, there is always a NK that can keep SK in check.

Just want to say, SK conservative party isn't anti-China. It is pretty pragmatic. However, for years, SK nationalist education and westernization have a major influence on its population. Anti-China has become political correctness. That means SK would likely do things that would anger China. Since SK conservative party is pro-Japan, the biggest worry for China is they could come up with a soft technology sanctions that include Japan, SK, and Taiwan with the US or even EU. I think Japan is working on that for a year already.
 

xypher

Senior Member
Registered Member
I don't really put a lot of stock into this victory. This election victory for the conservative pro-American faction was for me not a surprise, but what this victory does and will do in the Korean Peninsula is going to heighten the tensions to an even greater extent. South Korea in my estimation is itching to flex it's non-existent power as witnessed from the Jai Hind like delusions CSIS Korea talk held this past March in Washington D.C. The main foreign policy advisor to the S.K. president-elect spelled out the new aggressive posture and China Pivot as a supposed sign and signal to the Chinese that South Korea isn't a middling power but a great power.

China just needs to do what it's been doing in terms of economic development and trade because North Korea isn't exactly going anywhere or going to collapse anytime soon no matter how many South Koreans convert to their new and improved Xristianity. Let the South Korean flex and see how the Japanese neighbor reacts to this new found posture wether it'll realign their relationship into positive territory or the current enmity is too hard to overcome, and if that's the case, China doesn't have to do jack squat but let these 2 countries with napoleon like syndrome fight for supremacy.
Roughly 1/3rd of Korea's exports go to China - PRC has SK's economy by the balls. With a housing bubble and a TFR of 0.8, Korea would quickly enter a prolonged recession if China retaliates.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Personally I can care less who South Korea elects as a leader. What I have a problem is the Chinese reaction to it. You know how terrorists win? It's when you're terrified. That's why they're terrorists. It's not the killing. It's the terror in the people who are still alive they use to get what they want. If you're terrorized, they have power over you.

Americans like to brag about their military prowess meaning they like to threaten it to countries that they don't like or do what they want. Just like a terrorist. I come across Americans that taunt destroying China because they think they have the power to do it. It's because they want to see and relish expecting Chinese to be terrified at US power. When they come across someone like me, I'll say, "Then why don't you do it right now? Is it because you're... chicken? If you have the power without fear of loss then why don't you do it?" Everyone one of them are shocked and say nothing afterwards because they were expecting terror, an admission to US power. Their arrogance instantly turns into pathetic self-defenselessness.

In the case with the South Korean election... of course they want to side with the US because it about expressing power over China. It doesn't help when Chinese express disappointment either. It's like when Beijing says something the US does hurts the Chinese people's feelings. Do they really think the US will accommodate and not do what "hurts the Chinese people's feelings?" No they will do it more because they know they have power over the Chinese because they know they can hurt Chinese. South Korea is nothing without the US and the Chinese do acknowledge the US is in a higher authority so it shouldn't be surprising which side South Korea is going to pick. Chinese expressing their disappointment only makes them feel better.

I was at a friend's party years ago. His daughter was being annoying with all the adults but the adults were being careful and played nice with her instead of being stern. Then she set her sights on me and started hitting me with a bean bag while I was talking to someone. She started hitting harder as I ignored her to the point where I took the bean bag from her. She was angry and told me, "I hate you!" And I said to her, "Good, I like it when you hate me." She started crying and walked away. She didn't expect that response. She was expecting me to be sad at her expressing that she hated me. Do I feel bad that I made a little girl cry? No not really because I didn't say anything to hurt her personally. She said she hated me and I was okay with it. That's how you have to treat the US, South Korea, or any other country that thinks they can feel good at China's expense. Every single one of them acts like a spoiled child thinking they can do anything they want to you but when you punish them for it, they start crying like a child. Look at the EU slapping sanctions on China over the fake Uighur genocide. And then China slapped their own sanctions back and the EU thought they were the ones that were being wronged. They were still supposed to make money off of China as if it was their right. No, it's China's right to deny them something that belongs to China just like they think they can deny China from making money from them. Only a spoiled child thinks it can have that kind of lop-sided relationship. Countries that have anti-China feelings in their population should be denied access to China especially those in Asia where China is their number one customer. Chinese expressing their disappointment is worthless. Some Chinese think that's taking the high road. No one recognizes China taking the high road. Action speaks louder than words.
 
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