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4Runner

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Minm said:
Western civilian aircraft are simply better, it wouldn't be very rational to buy Russian planes when better options are available. Especially when you're trying to sell your oil to the West.

Iran also feels betrayed by its partnerships with China because many companies withdrew because of American sanctions. The American market was always more important to China than the Iranian market, which is very rational.

Despite occasional commercial disagreements, the Iranian government knows better than to rely on the West. Who knows when the next Trump will be elected? Politically Iran will always be on the anti Western side. A strong Iran is worth a lot more to China than today's weak Iran. That means sharing the Iranian market with international brands. Chinese products still have quite a poor reputation abroad, but just like Made in Japan used to stand for cheap knock offs, Made in China will soon be known for the quality. Once the new deal gets signed, Iran will probably buy new planes from Airbus. But if the C919 proves itself as a reliable plane, Iran may buy from COMAC 10 years from now. They're already buying Chinese cars or building them under license.
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I will probably give it to you that Iranians perceive that Europeans can offer better products or services. But the reality is that it is Iranians' wishful thinking. Between Iran and GCC/Arabs, I don't think EU would treat Iran any better. And between Iran and Israel, US would dump Iran in a heart beat. China does not have any design other than that Iran is a geopolitically important county along the BRI. But when push comes to shove, if China sides with GCC/Arabs, Iran would definitely be on the losing side. And Iranians are always 2nd class in the eyes of Europeans at best. So, I guess it is the perception that drives people's pockets again.
 
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Borrell and Blinken can forget about Chinese help- and from a realpolitik perspective why would China assist 2 polities that have demonstrated anti China hostility?

The more this crisis continues ie potential overspill of war in europe the less likely the Euro will be considered a safe haven reserve currency which, in light of USD inflation means only China's Yuan is THE global safe haven.

Bet Europeans wish they'd had something like, oh i don't know, a CAI to cement european financial health LOL
 
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Good old fun times..
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Again, it is a piece of wishful thinking on the part of the American elites. They want to have the cake and eat it too. They just don't realize that Russia is gone given how they treated Russians since 1991. Americans have a short memory and Americans don't read history. Gosh, I feel the pain already.
 
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antiterror13 said:
Why they are studying in Ukraine ? very strange
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Because Ukraine is cheap adult kindergarten for 18 year olds.

I’ve read that it costed about 80K yuan per year all expenses paid for a degree in Kiev.

Compare that with tier one US, tier 2 UK/CA, tier 3 AUS/NZ. All three tiers will cost you at least a million yuan for four year degrees not to mention the more stringent academic requirements. These kids studying in Ukraine most likely couldn’t get into any tier 2 colleges in China, so a tier one school in an cheap country could be more attractive.

I’ve watched some vlogs of Chinese students in Ukraine since the war broke out. It seemed that most of them are from smaller cities.

They are lots of Chinese students in Thailand colleges! Why even bother for a worthless diploma?!
 
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Chance of reverse Nixon is 0.0000001% now... I suspect the West realized this all along and hence the "ALL IN" strategy
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All the public servants and retirees in Russia have the Mir debit card. The West just pulled the rug under the feet of the people who are not connected with the government or who travel abroad to shop. When they need some quick cash, guess who will they have to ask?
There are over 112 million Mir debit cards in circulation in a population of 145 million. 52% of the population has a Mir card.
 
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Not exactly latest news. RT America closes. So much for Western values of Freedom of Speech. Russia in retaliation, bans the BBC, DW, and CNN. Russia had also banned Facebook. Congratulations Russia, you have cleaned the media pollution in your territory. Welcome to the club.

Next for Russia is to adopt new alternative platforms to Facebook, YouTube, and Google. The Russian people will go through a painful withdrawal period due to the sudden ban, but it'll be necessary. In the longer term, they'll have healthier minds.

Russia and China needs to create new alternative platforms that cater to the English-speaking audience. They really need an alternative to the mainstream Western platforms. Its not impossible, Tim Tok was a great example.
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At least when CGTN closes it would be no great loss.
 
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