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semiconprof said:
As far as I'm aware, this Russia as a junior partner of the de facto Sino-Russo alliance talking point popped up at the beginning of last year, presumably a half-baked attempt by the Biden administration to drive a wedge between China and Russia.

While China dwarfs Russia economically and outshines Russia developmentally in virtually every aspect, Russia still retains significant advantages over China in several areas including nuclear arsenal, strategic bombers, SSBNs, sphere of influence and political clout in middle east, Africa and Latin America. Russia is not as weak as people perceived to be and (Putin's)Russia will bow to no one. China is well aware of that.

China and Russia complement each other in this anti-Anglo-global-hegemony alliance. Russia can pick up where the Soviets left off, while China provides the economical engine the Soviets never had. Plus, the new Euroasia silk road is far more likely to succeed with Russia's blessing and cooperation. In this alliance, China and Russia are partners on equal terms. And based on the recent developments, this is exactly what the two have in mind.
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Exactly the point. Whether or not one country is the largest in the world by size, or the largest in the world by population, both have now become indispensable partners and the very last bastion to resist American perpetual hegemony (since India has practically caved to all American demands).

China and Russia also have the advantage of geography. The combined size of this new polity can project rapid land power across the entirety of the world continent, where 80% of the world lives and 70% of its global GDP. Let America be pushed back to its dominions in the America's, who will also eventually shake of the Washington yoke.
 
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j17wang said:
Exactly the point. Whether or not one country is the largest in the world by size, or the largest in the world by population, both have now become indispensable partners and the very last bastion to resist American perpetual hegemony (since India has practically caved to all American demands).

China and Russia also have the advantage of geography. The combined size of this new polity can project rapid land power across the entirety of the world continent, where 80% of the world lives and 70% of its global GDP. Let America be pushed back to its dominions in the America's, who will also eventually shake of the Washington yoke.
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They should include Mongolia and Kazakhstan in this alliance. These countries also share the same geography, and resource rich as well. Military power can be transferred and launched over a big geography.
 
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Well in the event of a American collapse, it is prudent then to sanction and cripple every single USA company to the point where the very foundation is destroyed. If these assholes think the can continue to profit even if the USA is gone under, well hey, it’s only fair and righteous that every company belonging to the USA and even the UK should be sanctioned to death. Who’s with me on that one
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Why not just purchase them for pennies and absorb their technology, but leave their management out the dry? Isn't that what the MSM fear the most? Nothing seem to trigger them more than this prospect.
 
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semiconprof said:
As far as I'm aware, this Russia as a junior partner of the de facto Sino-Russo alliance talking point popped up at the beginning of last year, presumably a half-baked attempt by the Biden administration to drive a wedge between China and Russia.

While China dwarfs Russia economically and outshines Russia developmentally in virtually every aspect, Russia still retains significant advantages over China in several areas including nuclear arsenal, strategic bombers, SSBNs, sphere of influence and political clout in middle east, Africa and Latin America. Russia is not as weak as people perceived to be and (Putin's)Russia will bow to no one. China is well aware of that.

China and Russia complement each other in this anti-Anglo-global-hegemony alliance. Russia can pick up where the Soviets left off, while China provides the economical engine the Soviets never had. Plus, the new Euroasia silk road is far more likely to succeed with Russia's blessing and cooperation. In this alliance, China and Russia are partners on equal terms. And based on the recent developments, this is exactly what the two have in mind.
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First thing at the start of EVERY year for Thirty years, the Foreign Minister of China fly all the way to Africa to visit. PRC is not the kind of country that treats other countries like they are beneath China.

China does throw its weight around, but that's almost exclusively on issues related to territorial dispute and Taiwan.

2020 Serbian President visit the US vs 2022 visit China.
 

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semiconprof said:
As far as I'm aware, this Russia as a junior partner of the de facto Sino-Russo alliance talking point popped up at the beginning of last year, presumably a half-baked attempt by the Biden administration to drive a wedge between China and Russia.
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China and Russia have very high mutual approval rates. In addition, as you said, Russian diplomatic influence in the Middle East, Europe and Latin America are highly valuable and cannot be replicated by China (though I believe China is more influential in Africa). Most of all, Russian geography is a huge asset and highly valuable to an integrated Eurasia. Russia brings alot to the partnership that China cannot get from anywhere else.

On the other hand, Russia gets to leverage the technological, demographic and industrial might of China to lower their domestic prices, plug into the China-ASEAN economic ecosystem, and sell its products to the fastest growing market in the world: Southeast Asia. This same market is also civil manufacturing rich and hungry for resources, arms and high tech, a perfect match for Russian requirements.

There are no junior partners here.
 
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LesAdieux

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semiconprof said:
As far as I'm aware, this Russia as a junior partner of the de facto Sino-Russo alliance talking point popped up at the beginning of last year, presumably a half-baked attempt by the Biden administration to drive a wedge between China and Russia.

While China dwarfs Russia economically and outshines Russia developmentally in virtually every aspect, Russia still retains significant advantages over China in several areas including nuclear arsenal, strategic bombers, SSBNs, sphere of influence and political clout in middle east, Africa and Latin America. Russia is not as weak as people perceived to be and (Putin's)Russia will bow to no one. China is well aware of that.

China and Russia complement each other in this anti-Anglo-global-hegemony alliance. Russia can pick up where the Soviets left off, while China provides the economical engine the Soviets never had. Plus, the new Euroasia silk road is far more likely to succeed with Russia's blessing and cooperation. In this alliance, China and Russia are partners on equal terms. And based on the recent developments, this is exactly what the two have in mind.
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actually under the Stalin-Mao pact, China was an official junior partner and a self confessed "little brother".

this sucker has been actively driving the Junior partner wedge for a while.
 
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Phead128 said:
Example, we joke amongst ourselves that UK is the junior lapdog of US in the US-UK relationship, but in reality, it's a sovereign-sovereign voluntary alliance with a huge economic/power disparity.
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I am not sure about voluntary part. UK nuclear systems basically US and most of UK blue chips firms have foreign CEOs/ownerships.
is ARM still with Softbank? and Softbank has Arab funds. and UK is depended on Arab LNG powered by German tech. it always come back to German engineering. shifting global energy and aviation industry to Chinese engineering by 2050 not easy task. it is one thing to earn contracts. its another thing to take responsibility of the system in another country.
 
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victoon said:
First thing at the start of EVERY year for Thirty years, the Foreign Minister of China fly all the way to Africa to visit. PRC is not the kind of country that treats other countries like they are beneath China.

China does throw its weight around, but that's almost exclusively on issues related to territorial dispute and Taiwan.

2020 Serbian President visit the US vs 2022 visit China.
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I saw that photo yesterday in 頭條開講. It was hilarious.

Wang Yi visited Comoros, a nation of < 900K people with per capita GDP of $700 on his first trip this year to Africa. Comoros donated 100 Euro to China during the outbreak in 2020. China shows its appreciation no matter the size of the gift.
 
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