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windsclouds2030

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United States should focus on United States own well-being instead of other nations including China!


GEORGE SOROS 2022.02.01: “Xi Jinping has done his best to dismantle Deng Xiaoping's achievements. He brought private companies established under Deng under the control of the CCP and undermine the dynamism that used to characterize them. Rather than letting private enterprise blossom, Xi Jinping introduced his own “China Dream” that can be up in two words, total control. That has had disastrous consequences.”
GEORGE SOROS 2022.02.01: “Xi Jinping has done his best to dismantle Deng Xiaoping's achievements. He brought private companies established under Deng under the control of the CCP and undermine the dynamism that used to characterize them. Rather than letting private enterprise blossom, Xi Jinping introduced his own “China Dream” that can be summed up in two words, total control. That has had disastrous consequences.”

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Sardaukar20

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Read this devil talk about Covid fast spreading in China make me check Covid situation. So two digit case and zero death is fast spreading? Then wtf to call US?
According to George Soros and his media mouthpieces, the US has the best Covid response on earth.

His doom and gloom rant about China sure sounds like something out of a fantasy novel by Mr. Chang.

Soros likes to compare the Beijing 2022 Winter Olympics with the 1936 Olympics in Germany.
Soros claimed that China, “like Germany in 1936,” will “attempt to use the spectacle” of the upcoming Beijing Olympic Games “to score a propaganda victory for its system of strict controls.”

For a so called anti-fascist Jew. Soros likes to compare China to Nazi Germany. But he sure has no problem with Neo-nazis in Ukraine running around with former SS division flags.

He should have been grateful to the communists for liberating Europe from the Nazis. Its was not the American flag waving ontop of the Reichstag. It was his hated communist Soviets. I do wonder sometimes if he is actually a Nazi. Eventhough he is a Jew. A devil is still a devil. Regardless of ethnicity.
 
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pmc

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No offense, but if the Turks are as good as you say, then they wouldn't still be offering "European quality at Asian prices" after 100 years of establishing their country next the one of the most developed regions in the world. They wouldn't have a GDP per capita of $7000 and exporting cheap labour.
It was German media report. I am showing European perspective what they think about quality. Turkey has presumably surplus labor that they can take so much global construction contracts, supply labor to Europe and still have gas consumption domestically inside Turkey that match or exceed Germany.
Likewise, if "European quality" is as great as you hyped, Volkswagen wouldn't be shamed worldwide for dieselgate. They wouldn't have been so behind in semiconductors manufacturing. They wouldn't have missed almost the entirety of the upcoming industrial revolution. I agree that Europe is still extremely strong in many categories, but let's not jump on the hype train here.
i know Germanic engineering as i mostly write about that topic. but you cannot blame only one firm that operates globally for so long for one of mistakes. Koreans also faced similar situation with emissions. there is always pressure of stock market and profits.
what i am pointing is that Europe version of connectivity and infrastructure is different.
 

pmc

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That dude loves licking European (including Russian) balls. Too bad that most of the time he just writes his white supremacist fantasies (e.g. he wrote that all Asians should be bowing down to Russia for the FDI and when I pointed out that most of the investment comes from other Asian countries, he stopped replying) and provides some irrelevant links.
i think you not understood what i wrote. i said Japan/Korea/Taiwan got developed with surplus investment capital under western investment system. first these countries had to earn money in that system before they can further invest in China/Malaysia/Vietnam.
Even today best Samsung research centers are not in Asia if you exclude domestic Korean research. so these countries are still spending money outside Asia.
 

pmc

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ou have mistaken me with pmc and i don't share that opinion. China is by far stronger then russia anyone who says otherwise would be lying.. Nor have i ever held such opinion
Are you sure about this thing?. First China should try daily fly its Airforce over US/ Europe allied countries in Middleast/Europe/Africa.
If there was no Russia in current state. This whole Central Asia will come under Turkish/German control. Middleast will be selling its energy at very different prices to Asia. Russia still attracts people what it consider best for its society and it has very effective investment system.
it has the will to spend money in very less populated area as it know the bigger picture.
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Overbom

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Russia still attracts people what it consider best for its society and it has very effective investment system.
it has the will to spend money in very less populated area as it know the bigger picture.
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Russia is not in a good spot. Believe it or not, I consider Russia to be in relative decline.
People can talk about military, geopolitics, gas etc, but in the end what matters the most is the state of the economy.
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Sardaukar20

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A Tale of Two supposed China. One tries to preserve it's cultural roots, the other bastardized herself but pretends she's the preserver of Chinese culture.

Absolutely shameful what Taiwan had become. I've heard from some Pan Blue Taiwanese that ROC saved Chinese culture while PRC was destroying it. Now, what can they say?

A 'Communist dictatorship' govt can revive Chinese culture. While a free and democratic govt is prostituting Chinese culture to American new age hedonistic crap. Till today, I have friends who insist that Taiwan and HK are the only places where 'true Chinese culture exists'. I can only facepalm.
 

xypher

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i think you not understood what i wrote. i said Japan/Korea/Taiwan got developed with surplus investment capital under western investment system. first these countries had to earn money in that system before they can further invest in China/Malaysia/Vietnam.
The only recipient of Marshall funds in that system was Japan and the sum itself was not that big. There is a myth that the US re-built all countries from the ground up, the Marshall plan merely gave torque to the ones who could exploit it. South Korea primarily developed through remittances of Koreans working abroad (btw, the same is true for China, most of the early FDI and currency inflows came from overseas Chinese communities, not the West) and Japanese investments\JVs.

Even today best Samsung research centers are not in Asia if you exclude domestic Korean research. so these countries are still spending money outside Asia.
Give the sources on that, plus include the rankings of research centers that show they are the best. I bet you are going to again sourcelessly circlejerk about "muh rushinz" and the few research centers Samsung has there, lol.

Are you sure about this thing?. First China should try daily fly its Airforce over US/ Europe allied countries in Middleast/Europe/Africa.
I could say the same about Russia and SCS. I am sure you had geography classes - take a look at the proximity of Chinese borders to Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.

If there was no Russia in current state. This whole Central Asia will come under Turkish/German control. Middleast will be selling its energy at very different prices to Asia.
You have some extreme German fetish in addition to a Russian one. Also, give the source on "Middleast will be selling its energy at very different prices to Asia", is it your ass again? Lol. Let's not forget that Russia sold gas to Europe at lower prices than they did to Asia, so nah, you can take your white savior fairytales somewhere else.
 
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