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Trump fights back against Fox News trying to push Anti-Vaccine and Anti-China message


Candice: "Oh yea, masks children in schools, that's like CHINA!!"
Trump: "Well, China's education system is hell of a lot better than ours. They are rated #2 or #3 in the world, compared to US which is rated #47 in the world."
Candice: "Oh shit, fuck.... switches topic immediately"

I LOVE IT!

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It is true. Even his grand daughter is receiving Chinese education.
 

xypher

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Trump pushes back against Anti-Vaccinators and Anti-China Comment by Fox News Host. :cool:


Candice: "Oh yea, masks children in schools, that's like CHINA!!"
Trump: "Well, China's education system is hell of a lot better than ours. They are rated #2 or #3 in the world, compared to US which is rated #47 in the world."
Candice: "Oh shit, fuck.... switches topic immediately"

I LOVE IT!

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When even Donnie is basically facepalming at your intelligence level you know you are fkin dumb, lol. Although, that's expected from "uncle Tom" sellouts like Candace.
 

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In the aftermath, Vietnam was forced to maintain a huge standing army because it had a hostile relationship with China which was much larger.
On a per capita basis, Vietnam was even more militarised than the USSR. Note that the USSR went bankrupt from excessive military spending.

At the same time, Vietnam was economically isolated from its neighbours in Asia and from the global trading system.
It also cemented China's quasi-alliance with the USA against the USSR/Vietnam.
The US was even operating signals intelligence stations inside China, aimed at the USSR.

We also saw significantly improved Chinese relations with Thailand, the rest of the ASEAN and the rest of the West.

Good conservation gentlemen, recommend this book if you haven't already read it.

Add a few more points:

1. Deng needed a "small war" to whip the PLA into shape, which he knew had major issues and low morale after the Cultural Revolution. And also he needed a war for his own political purposes, as he was still in the process of consolidating his power.
2. Further to the quasi-alliance with the USA, Deng needed US/Western capital and tech to launch his main goal - economic reforms.
3. After the main ceasefire, there was continuous skirmishes which put Vietnam under massive economic pressure (they were preparing for another PLA assault), essentially Vietnam lost the entire decade of the 1980s due to focusing on the border at a time when its economy and industries were weak.

Vietnam was thus neutralised, and basically surrendered in 1988, pulling all troops from Cambodia; the new VNese leadership pressed for peace with Beijing so it could focus instead on economic reforms, having witnessed the early results of China's reforms.

Deng's Long War 1.JPG
 

NiuBiDaRen

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It is true. Even his grand daughter is receiving Chinese education.
I was on a plane trip to Iowa (hopefully the last because its cold damp and sucky), and some ancient farmer looking grandfather said his grandkids were learning French, German, Japanese and Chinese. Pretty much the most important foreign languages these days, although some weeabs will tell me Korean is number one. Phail.
 

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Biden signs Xinjiang forced-labour bill into law​

  • Ban on imports from Xinjiang will go into effect in June, with disruptions to the global supply chain likely
  • Law creates a “rebuttable presumption” that all goods sourced wholly or in part in Xinjiang are tainted by the use of forced labour in their production
US President
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signed into law on Thursday a measure that will effectively ban all imports from China’s
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Uygur autonomous region, a move likely to have significant ramifications for
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s and global supply chains alike.

In a brief statement, Biden thanked Congressional leaders and the bill’s authors for their “leadership” on the overwhelmingly bipartisan legislation, but he did not host a signing ceremony as presidents sometimes do with high-profile bills.

nacting the bill signalled the Biden administration’s commitment to “combating forced labour, including in the context of the ongoing genocide in
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”, said US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, referring to an official determination by the government that Beijing’s actions in the region constitute crimes against humanity.

Blinken praised the “new tools” provided by the legislation to both counter forced labour in
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and to “further promote accountability for persons and entities responsible for these abuses.”

The new law creates a “rebuttable presumption” that all goods sourced wholly or in part in Xinjiang are tainted by the use of forced labour in their production – charges that Beijing denies. The ban will go into effect in June.

Once the ban is in place, companies will be able to appeal the prohibition only if they can provide “clear and convincing evidence” that their supply chains are free of the involvement of forced labour.

Experts say that standard will be close to impossible to meet, given the inability of independent auditors to gain unrestricted access to the region.

The law also directs the US government to sanction any individual in China deemed responsible for rights abuses related to forced labour.

The new law adds to growing international scrutiny of China’s policies in Xinjiang, dovetailing with criticism of the Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games in Beijing in two months; the US and other allies are refusing to send officials in protest.

“As the Chinese government tries to whitewash their genocide and claim a propaganda victory with the upcoming Olympics, this legislation sends a powerful, bipartisan message that the United States will not turn a blind eye,” Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon, the bill’s lead Democratic sponsor in the Senate, said on Thursday.

The move to ban all Xinjiang imports follows a spate of US government actions to punish China over its policies in the region, including sanctions against officials, blacklisting of numerous Chinese companies, and other trade measures.

Senator Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican who was the bill’s author, called its signing into law the “most important and impactful action” taken by the US to combat forced labour in China to date. “It will fundamentally change our relationship with Beijing.”

The ban is an outlier among US import restrictions, which typically limit goods based on specific product types or individual suppliers, rather than entire regions.

The import ban will “reverberate through global cotton and solar markets”, researchers at the Peterson Institute for International Economics (PIIE) wrote.
Xinjiang is a dominant player in international supply chains of cotton; polysilicon, a material critical to the production of solar panels; and agricultural goods like tomatoes.

Even with existing federal restrictions on cotton and tomato imports from Xinjiang, exports from the region to the US more than doubled in the first quarter of 2021 to some US$64 million. That figure does not account for goods shipped to the US from other locations that use raw materials sourced in Xinjiang.

While the bill was a “constructive move”, the PIIE researchers noted that it would not address new allegations of forced transfer of Uygur labourers out of Xinjiang to other parts of China.

And while rights advocates have hailed the law as a valuable tool to crack down on suspected forced labour, they stress that its efficacy will hinge on the rigour with which the US Customs and Border Protection agency enforces it.

CBP has six months to develop an enforcement strategy, and during that time, a federal task force on forced labour will hold hearings and seek public comment on how best to prevent goods involving Xinjiang from entering the US.

China has assailed the legislation as a case of “economic bullying” under the pretence of human rights and has vowed countermeasures, but has yet to indicate what form any retaliation might take.

Previous US efforts to hold Beijing accountable for human rights abuses have seen the Chinese government respond with sanctions on individual lawmakers and congressional bodies.
The Chinese embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the bill’s enactment.

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taxiya

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We both agree that Russia will not fully annex/conquer Ukraine, just like China did not fully annex/conquer Vietnam. Rather, Russia annexed Crimea, and China annexed Nam Quan Gate and Gioc Falls. (Salami-slicing annexation)
That is a far stretch of the concept of annexation.

Russian and Ukrainian border was legally settled at the breakup of USSR. You may be "right" to call that an "annexation" if you stand on Ukrainian's perspective, but not according to the population of Crimea, mostly self-identified as Russian.

China and Vietnam's border was never legally settled until December 30 1999 when the two signed the treaty of border settlement
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If you claim that China annexed these two places, then Vietnam also annexed a lot of Chinese territory up till Dec 30 1999.
 
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Biden signs Xinjiang forced-labour bill into law​

  • Ban on imports from Xinjiang will go into effect in June, with disruptions to the global supply chain likely
  • Law creates a “rebuttable presumption” that all goods sourced wholly or in part in Xinjiang are tainted by the use of forced labour in their production
US President
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signed into law on Thursday a measure that will effectively ban all imports from China’s
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Uygur autonomous region, a move likely to have significant ramifications for
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s and global supply chains alike.

In a brief statement, Biden thanked Congressional leaders and the bill’s authors for their “leadership” on the overwhelmingly bipartisan legislation, but he did not host a signing ceremony as presidents sometimes do with high-profile bills.

nacting the bill signalled the Biden administration’s commitment to “combating forced labour, including in the context of the ongoing genocide in
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”, said US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, referring to an official determination by the government that Beijing’s actions in the region constitute crimes against humanity.

Blinken praised the “new tools” provided by the legislation to both counter forced labour in
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and to “further promote accountability for persons and entities responsible for these abuses.”

The new law creates a “rebuttable presumption” that all goods sourced wholly or in part in Xinjiang are tainted by the use of forced labour in their production – charges that Beijing denies. The ban will go into effect in June.

Once the ban is in place, companies will be able to appeal the prohibition only if they can provide “clear and convincing evidence” that their supply chains are free of the involvement of forced labour.

Experts say that standard will be close to impossible to meet, given the inability of independent auditors to gain unrestricted access to the region.

The law also directs the US government to sanction any individual in China deemed responsible for rights abuses related to forced labour.

The new law adds to growing international scrutiny of China’s policies in Xinjiang, dovetailing with criticism of the Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games in Beijing in two months; the US and other allies are refusing to send officials in protest.

“As the Chinese government tries to whitewash their genocide and claim a propaganda victory with the upcoming Olympics, this legislation sends a powerful, bipartisan message that the United States will not turn a blind eye,” Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon, the bill’s lead Democratic sponsor in the Senate, said on Thursday.

The move to ban all Xinjiang imports follows a spate of US government actions to punish China over its policies in the region, including sanctions against officials, blacklisting of numerous Chinese companies, and other trade measures.

Senator Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican who was the bill’s author, called its signing into law the “most important and impactful action” taken by the US to combat forced labour in China to date. “It will fundamentally change our relationship with Beijing.”

The ban is an outlier among US import restrictions, which typically limit goods based on specific product types or individual suppliers, rather than entire regions.

The import ban will “reverberate through global cotton and solar markets”, researchers at the Peterson Institute for International Economics (PIIE) wrote.
Xinjiang is a dominant player in international supply chains of cotton; polysilicon, a material critical to the production of solar panels; and agricultural goods like tomatoes.

Even with existing federal restrictions on cotton and tomato imports from Xinjiang, exports from the region to the US more than doubled in the first quarter of 2021 to some US$64 million. That figure does not account for goods shipped to the US from other locations that use raw materials sourced in Xinjiang.

While the bill was a “constructive move”, the PIIE researchers noted that it would not address new allegations of forced transfer of Uygur labourers out of Xinjiang to other parts of China.

And while rights advocates have hailed the law as a valuable tool to crack down on suspected forced labour, they stress that its efficacy will hinge on the rigour with which the US Customs and Border Protection agency enforces it.

CBP has six months to develop an enforcement strategy, and during that time, a federal task force on forced labour will hold hearings and seek public comment on how best to prevent goods involving Xinjiang from entering the US.

China has assailed the legislation as a case of “economic bullying” under the pretence of human rights and has vowed countermeasures, but has yet to indicate what form any retaliation might take.

Previous US efforts to hold Beijing accountable for human rights abuses have seen the Chinese government respond with sanctions on individual lawmakers and congressional bodies.
The Chinese embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the bill’s enactment.

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That's a trade escalation. A lot of things are made in Xinjiang. If China doesn't forcibly respond then the EU and others will follow.

For China, it should consider this US law as the initial barrage starting trade war 2.0.
"You banned all imports from one of my regions, I will do the same to you"
 
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