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manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Some democratic senators want to prohibit Russia from selling and China, Turkey, SA etc from buying S-400.

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Some people just really don't care about looking stupid. This is about the same level as Trump asking China for a plan to reduce its surplus by $100 billion (or $1 billion depending on when you read it). I'm sure when the Chinese first heard it, their faces froze and 'Uh, maybe you guys stop sucking so much at financial planning' shot through their minds simultaneously. This is like the Knicks calling up the Cavaliers and saying, "Hey, we need you to figure out how to not beat us by too much when we play next week. Chop chop! What's the plan?" LOL
 
How exactly are they going to enforce that? Russia's already been hit with like 200 sanctions.
to the extent I understood (LOL or misunderstood) that document, they would threaten not the seller (Russia), but potential buyers (for example India
Today at 1:22 PM
no idea how credible it is S-400 deal may be finalised by March 31
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LOL the time info is like this:

see? they said they had updated the article before posting it
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(threaten with, am retyping from that document: "secondary sanctions on those who conduct significant transactions with the Russian defense" etc., which would be spicy in the case of Turkey:
Jul 23, 2016
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In total for Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney, F-35 Production Industrial Participation opportunities for Turkish companies are expected to reach more than $12 billion.

Below are details on the 10 Turkish companies who have supported the development and/or production of F-35 / F135.

Alp Aviation has been supporting the program since 2004 and currently manufactures F-35 production airframe structure and assemblies, production landing gear components and over 100 F135 production engine parts to include titanium integrated blade rotors.
Aselsan is developing manufacturing approaches for advanced optical components, which are part of the F-35 Electro Optical Targeting System. They are also working with Northrup Grumman on the F-35 CNI Avionic Interface Controller and will initiate full scale production activities in the near term.
Ayesas currently is the sole source supplier for two major F-35 components – missile remote interface unit and the panoramic cockpit display.
Fokker Elmo manufactures 40 percent of the F-35 Electrical Wiring & Interconnection System (EWIS) and will also deliver and support TAI with all center section wiring systems. Fokker Elmo is also developing the EWIS for the F135 engine, for which a major share is produced in Fokker Elmo Turkey in Izmir.
Havelsan has been supporting the F-35 training systems since 2005. Additionally, Havelsan has been instrumental as the Turkish lead for developing the construct of the future Turkish F-35 Integrated Pilot and Maintenance Training Center (ITC) and associated training systems in Turkey.
Kale Aerospace has been supporting the F-35 since 2005. In conjunction with Turkish Aerospace Industries, they manufacture and produce F-35 airframe structures and assemblies. Kale Aero also supports Heroux Devtek as the sole source supplier for all three variants landing gear up lock assemblies. Additionally, Kale Aerospace has also established a joint venture in Izmir with Pratt & Whitney and is manufacturing production hardware for the F135 engine.
MiKES has supported the F-35 Program during SDD delivering F-35 aircraft components and assemblies for BAE Systems and Northrop Grumman
ROKETSAN and Tubitak-SAGE are the Turkish joint leadership team who strategically manage the development, integration, and production of the advanced precision-guided Stand-off Missile (SOM-J) which will be carried internally on the 5th Generation F-35 aircraft. Additionally, Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control has partnered with Roketsan, through a teaming agreement, to jointly develop, produce, market and sell the advanced, precision guided Stand Off Missile – Joint Strike Fighter (SOM-J).
• Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) has been strategically supporting the F-35 Program since 2008. The company currently supplies production hardware that goes into every F-35 production aircraft. In conjunction with Northrup Grumman, TAI manufactures and assembles the center fuselages, produces composite skins and weapon bay doors, and manufactures fiber placement composite air inlet ducts. Additionally, TAI is strategically manufacturing 45 percent of the F-35’s including Air-to-Ground Pylons and adapters which is Alternate Mission Equipment (AME).

Additionally, Turkish Industry are going to have significant Industrial Participation role supporting Lockheed Martin and Pratt and Whitney for F-35 aircraft sustainment and F135 engine production and sustainment. Turkey has been given the approval to build its own F135 engines and was also selected to have the first European Regional F135 Engine depot overhaul capability. Both the engine production and overhaul will take place at the 1st HIBM in Eskisehir. Additionally, TAI has also been assigned to represent the organic depots of the Turkish Armed Forces within the Autonomic Logistic Global Sustainment (ALGS) system and Havelsan has been assigned as the Turkish Integrator for the National Integrated Training Center (ITC).

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Saudi Arabia:
Jan 26, 2018
inside

How the Saudis Drag the US into Perpetual War in the Mideast
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just one sentence about money? "Signing
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arms-sale deals with the Saudis—as Trump did this past year—only contributes to the bad optics."
LOL the author was coy, so I'll say it: Saudi Ariabia has been bonanza
Oct 9, 2016

Qatar:
Feb 1, 2018
noticed Seeking closer ties, Qatar to expand base used by US troops
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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
How exactly are they going to enforce that? Russia's already been hit with like 200 sanctions.

Most likely they're going to use MTCR. S-400 goes past the 300km range limit for missile exports. The idea is a gangbang by members to sanction violators. So even though a country doesn't sign on to MTCR the members are obligated to help punish anyone who violates it. Some US politicians want to punish China for UAV exports using MTCR.
 

timepass

Brigadier
US Media's obsession with ISI never stops to amuse us.....

The article quotes "unnammed Intelligence source", the same un named intel source also informed the US media and the Administration that there were WMDs in Iraq, and that they need to liberate Libya, and that they ne
ed to support the Anti Govt groups in Syria.

Pakistani covert support for Taliban revealed...

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Dizasta1

Senior Member
Red alert!!!! Is this the spy-poisoning confession Scotland Yard's been dreaming of???


Yeah that sure sounds like what "they" want it to be sounding like.

What is important, that the governments of the Russian Federation and Britain, work together to find the real criminal behind such an attack. As the incident appears to be more and more like someone wants the two countries to go to war over. Russia would not be so careless or reckless in leaving a footprint such as this, if it were really behind an attack like this. And Britain would not be irresponsible as to stage such a false flag to have an open confrontation with the Russian Federation. So it is important that at times such as this, the international community comes together and assists Russia and Britain in finding the real criminals who look more like non-state actors than otherwise.
 
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