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MortyandRick

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What China needs is a few Western trained spin docters.
I personally feel that it wouldn't make much of a difference. Western media is so ingrained and a self perpetuating echo chamber is real hard for anyone else to take the initiative.

Is there any country not allied with the US that has a strong media presence?

China needs to have more echo chamber too and make sure they dominant the Chinese language news first then move onwards. I do agree there is a hell of a lot more they can do like RT or TRT in terms of getting more vocal.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
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I personally feel that it wouldn't make much of a difference. Western media is so ingrained and a self perpetuating echo chamber is real hard for anyone else to take the initiative.

Is there any country not allied with the US that has a strong media presence?

China needs to have more echo chamber too and make sure they dominant the Chinese language news first then move onwards. I do agree there is a hell of a lot more they can do like RT or TRT in terms of getting more vocal.
@MortyandRick bro RT is great, the West spin is a great ammunition for a counter move cause it was based on a lie. CGTN audiences are foreigners and since most of them had already form an opinion on China they're handicap. Here they need to collaborate with RT and had a joint cooperation.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
No, IMO either through the shit back like "how do you prove that you are telling any truth?" or no response ever. The stupidity is his trying to prove "China's innocence", by doing so he lend the accuser who has no evidence some credence.

From my childhood experience, facing such word bullying, one either walk away, or punch the bully right to the face, because even the bystander is not interested in the truth but happy to see how the fight goes, anybody stand by principle and truth would have raised their voice equally to the bully as to the accused. Yet, we did not see any such equal treatment in this farce, didn't we?

Addition:
One thing that I see is critical is that when facing a question/statement/accusation, the very first thing to do is not answering it, but to question the validity of that "question/statement/accusation", attack the very root/foundation/standing-point of the opponent. Shifting the burden of proof to the accuser is a common legal practice.
I forgot to ask if you saw Peng's post and do you think that she actually said she was sexually molested?.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
No, IMO either through the shit back like "how do you prove that you are telling any truth?" or no response ever. The stupidity is his trying to prove "China's innocence", by doing so he lend the accuser who has no evidence some credence.

From my childhood experience, facing such word bullying, one either walk away, or punch the bully right to the face, because even the bystander is not interested in the truth but happy to see how the fight goes, anybody stand by principle and truth would have raised their voice equally to the bully as to the accused. Yet, we did not see any such equal treatment in this farce, didn't we?

Addition:
One thing that I see is critical is that when facing a question/statement/accusation, the very first thing to do is not answering it, but to question the validity of that "question/statement/accusation", attack the very root/foundation/standing-point of the opponent. Shifting the burden of proof to the accuser is a common legal practice.
@taxiya yeah bro can relate , here the way for politician to earned some brownie points is to accused and plant some doubt on your opponent credibility and let him produce the evidence to counter it....lol , A tactic shown to us by the American and its media, An example A former Senator in the name of Sonny Trillannes accused Duterte of illegal wealth without any proof, when question he said to prove his allegation Duterte must show his bank account to prove his innocence WTF!!!!
 

Bellum_Romanum

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@taxiya yeah bro can relate , here the way for politician to earned some brownie points is to accused and plant some doubt on your opponent credibility and let him produce the evidence to counter it....lol , A tactic shown to us by the American and its media, An example A former Senator in the name of Sonny Trillannes accused Duterte of illegal wealth without any proof, when question he said to prove his allegation Duterte must show his bank account to prove his innocence WTF!!!!
After all, that former Senator was and probably still under the CIA payroll. The man was a former intelligence officer after all and most if not all their training is straight up lifted from the American military school. I mean, the dude is apparently a professor now after retiring from being one of the most useless POS of a senator in the Philippines senate.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
After all, that former Senator was and probably still under the CIA payroll. The man was a former intelligence officer after all and most if not all their training is straight up lifted from the American military school. I mean, the dude is apparently a professor now after retiring from being one of the most useless POS of a senator in the Philippines senate.
@Bellum_Romanum bro that man is a coward when the going gets tough he is the first to bail out (Oakwood mutiny in 2003 and Manila Peninsula siege in 2007) . His father is an officer and an instructor in the PMA, due to his father influence he had enter the academy and was protected. He join the Navy cause that service arm is the most cushy job that require no combat activity. So his military service is laughable without any combat experience, his only shoot to fame is he is a talker and boy he talk tough, act tough but devoid of substance. His win in the Senate is a protest vote and he use his position to make money, his retainer is not cheap being an attack dog to destroy his employer opponent. As the result he can blackmailed his former employers (the Ayala's , MVP of Meralco, the Jesuit priest which owned Ateneo University where he is currently employed) and the reason why he had a professor job.
 

Kaeshmiri

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To teach WTA a lesson there is no need to ban them as it wont benefit China and wont badly harm WTA. WTA determined that not holding any tournaments in China wont do much economic damage to them.

WTA like any other sporting body depends on Sponsors to survive. Its the sponsors who pay their bills. Now if we look at WTA official partners on their website its Porsche, WHOOP, SAP. China is Porsches largest market, WHOOP produces all its wearable's in China.
Then we also have a ton of companies that sponsor WTA tournaments annually . Nike, UNIQLO, Audi etc.
Now again China is either the largest or second largest market for most of these companies.

Simply threaten these sponsors to withdraw from WTA or lose the China market. Won't exactly be a difficult choice for them. I say China should start with Porsche and ask them to pullout. Cant exactly feast on the Chinese car market while also sponsor a China hating sporting body can you? Once WTA feels the heats from sponsors watch how they'll reverse all their moves in days and even start positive PR.

Sometimes its better to whip someone into submission than to banish them.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
To teach WTA a lesson there is no need to ban them as it wont benefit China and wont badly harm WTA. WTA determined that not holding any tournaments in China wont do much economic damage to them.

WTA like any other sporting body depends on Sponsors to survive. Its the sponsors who pay their bills. Now if we look at WTA official partners on their website its Porsche, WHOOP, SAP. China is Porsches largest market, WHOOP produces all its wearable's in China.
Then we also have a ton of companies that sponsor WTA tournaments annually . Nike, UNIQLO, Audi etc.
Now again China is either the largest or second largest market for most of these companies.

Simply threaten these sponsors to withdraw from WTA or lose the China market. Won't exactly be a difficult choice for them. I say China should start with Porsche and ask them to pullout. Cant exactly feast on the Chinese car market while also sponsor a China hating sporting body can you? Once WTA feels the heats from sponsors watch how they'll reverse all their moves in days and even start positive PR.

Sometimes its better to whip someone into submission than to banish them.
@Kaeshmiri bro sorry for being rude BUT China didn't care. If its Table Tennis or Basketball then you have its attention. ;)
 
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