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Petrolicious88

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If her claims were false then it would be warranted or at least guilty of slandering.
Then report it as slander until proven otherwise.

They had an affair. It’s in the past. That’s not what matters anymore. Did Peng create a crisis by speaking out or did China create this crisis for itself by suppressing Peng
 

Sleepyjam

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They had an affair. It’s in the past. That’s not what matters anymore. Did Peng create a crisis by speaking out or did China create this crisis for itself by suppressing Peng
No she claimed there was an affair and says she doesn’t have any evidence. You do realize that just because someone wrote something doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the truth right?

Then report it as slander until proven otherwise.
This is how China deals with slander especially if she has a change of heart later.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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The problem with this entire episode is of transparency and Domino effect. Nobody would've cared about this allegation had Peng not suddenly disappeared from public eye. No social media post, no statement and then a supposed email which was a botch attempt by Chinese Media. Lack of transparency will always hurt China in these situations.
All China had to do was declare that they will investigate the allegations. After that the news would've disappeared from public attention. But by completely blacking out the accuser you're only going to make things difficult for yourself.
That's Exactly what am scratching my head that sometimes Chinese government actions are it's own worst enemy when it comes on how to handle these kind of sensitive issues. The governance ought to move with such deftness and sophistication when it comes to this s..t otherwise they're going to be always on the defensive and will come looking worse than the actual allegations.
 

texx1

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You don't expect them to come out and explicitly state that they won't investigate earlier corruption, do you? There were corruption everywhere in the entire system, prioritizing investigating new corruption means old corruption won't get investigated, which is not to say they will be absolved.
PRC spends plenty of resources going after corrupt officials escaped to foreign countries and trying to extradite them back to face justice. You actually think domestically PRC doesn't have the resources to simultaneously go after old corruption as well as new corruption. Besides anti corruption crackdown is vastly popular and I am sure Chinese citizens are supportive of spending more resources on it.
 

Petrolicious88

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No she claimed there was an affair and says she doesn’t have any evidence. You do realize that just because someone wrote something doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the truth right?
Then report it as slander. That’s not why this news is making international headlines. It could have been handled with transparency, and no one would have cared expect the tabloids.

Again did Peng create the crisis by speaking out or did China magnify the crisis for itself by trying to suppress her.
 

Hadoren

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The correct way to deal with this is silence. By itself, this is just an Internet accusation, nothing else.

An Internet accusation cannot by itself sustain controversy. Controversy requires adding fuel to the fire. If there's no fuel, the fire burns out and people lose interest. So no weird awkward e-mails. Just don't respond.

Now the Anglos will constantly ask, "Where is X?" Imo this strategy is ineffective propaganda. Because nobody cares about "X." And after a few months, everybody forgets about "X."

So the correct response is simply to ignore questions about "Where is X?" If directly questioned, say that you don't know where a random person out of 1.4 billion people is. Then point out that the Anglos always ask "Where is Random Chinese Person Y?" every few months. You're not their personal stalking service, and you're not going to stalk "Random Chinese Person X/Y/Z/A/B/C" every two or three months just to appease their New Cold War propaganda machine.
 

OppositeDay

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In Chinese politics there are specific routes to take to address grievances. There was a scandal a few months ago when the head of CASC's investment arm assaulted two senior scientists. The timing was sensitive but the victims took the proper route, the incident was reported by state press after the sensitive period had passed and the assailant was fired, expelled from the party and put under criminal investigation.

In Peng's case, there is little can be done by the authorities even if she goes through all the proper channels and Peng knew this. So her goal was just to ruin Zhang's reputation, which is entirely justified. She must have known there is going to be a blackout and expected it, but a moment's spotlight is sufficient for her goal. It works. Peng accomplish what can be accomplished and the system gets to carry on. People will judge for themselves whether to believe her, most will I think. Zhang will probably become too toxic to make any public appearance ever again. This is how it works.

Political culture in China is different from the U.S., where there are so many scandals that both candidates in 2020 were or had been defending sexual harassment charges and their supporters weren't bothered at all by those. The Chinese approach won't work in the broad American political context and the the American approach won't work in China. You cannot compartmentalize this particular issue.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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China is being boxed into a corner by the usual suspect (U.S.) and is using it's vast swathe of vassals to do it's bidding. China's response against the Philippines attempt to resupply it's troops in the disputed area was unfortunate but necessary, otherwise the Philippine actions if permitted without any push from China would be then gradually ratcheted up essentially pushing China's envelope or threshold by the Philippines with the tacit support and approval by Washington. And if China chooses inaction and or worst just voice of protest and nothing more, countries that have disputes in the SCS like Vietnam would perhaps become a little more adventurous in testing China's patience and by the time China is ready to act it's position in the SCS would have been severely curtailed and compromised that it's forced to take a drastic action that would involved the use of force against other claimant countries like the Philippines, Vietnam etc..which would then push or give the Americans the impetus and moral argument if and when it takes military action against China.
 
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