I dont think Trump thinks very much of anything to be honest, its much more effective to model his behavior using an animal's model: eat, bite, bark, whimper, flee, breed, die
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FriedRiceNSpice
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It may be difficult under Trump, and at the current time I don't think Russia would consider such a realignment unless it is confident that future US administrations would continue to uphold such a partnership. However over time, as the relative decline of US power becomes more and more apparent, geostrategic realism may come to become increasingly dominant within US foreign policy and US geopolitical strategy will become more pragmatic and less ideological.
Promising Something and actually holding up your end of the bargain and delivering are two different things and Putin would know more than anyone else, he was in Russian security services when Gorbachev gave away the Soviet Union under the belief that NATO would not expand eastwards and that Russia and the west would jointly lead the world together with Russia inside nato.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Everything the US says is the reason why they had to start a war with Iran can be said for China. The reason why the US doesn’t start with China is because China can strike back. The reason why targeting civilians is like a taboo is because that’s the weakness of a democracy. Does the West stay away from targeting civilians? The reason why the genocide in Gaza is okay with the West is because “it wasn’t intentional”. That’s the only difference. China will be able to kill their civilians as much as they can to China and that’s what holds them back. Americans aren’t going to sacrifice their lives okay with a tit-for-tat casualty count hence why civilian casualties are a weakness for a democracy. They even made targeting civilian infrastructure against International law …but does that stop West from doing it…?
What the Iran war shows is how weak democracies are if you don’t follow their rules made for them to win. Westerners like to hide behind civilian casualties they inflict being their own fault for not revolting against the government Western countries don’t like. All that says from the horse’s own mouth is targeting civilians is okay. What more says you’re more guilty for your government’s actions where civilians vote for their leaders?
That’s the thing about in a democracy where they have to over-inflate the value of everyone’s life because politicians need their votes. That’s why Americans can’t take casualties, certainly not as high as they inflict on the other side. It also doesn’t take that much to make Americans turn especially in an environment where someone like Trump openly favors his own personal interests above the American people.
What the Iran war shows is how weak democracies are if you don’t follow their rules made for them to win. Westerners like to hide behind civilian casualties they inflict being their own fault for not revolting against the government Western countries don’t like. All that says from the horse’s own mouth is targeting civilians is okay. What more says you’re more guilty for your government’s actions where civilians vote for their leaders?
That’s the thing about in a democracy where they have to over-inflate the value of everyone’s life because politicians need their votes. That’s why Americans can’t take casualties, certainly not as high as they inflict on the other side. It also doesn’t take that much to make Americans turn especially in an environment where someone like Trump openly favors his own personal interests above the American people.
Indeed, the objection to the war is mainly because the American s are losing and taking casualties, such that they have to censor footsge of military funerals. If Iran had folded as Venezuela had folded, Americans would be on a gung ho militaristic ”Murrica F-k yeah!” high. Instead, they’re looking at inflation, a spreading quagmire, and the ragnarok that they actually wanted with China, now being undertaken with Iran.
I listened to the Tucker Carlson interview, their main objection to the war is that it took attention away from their desired gotterdamerung with China, they’re not against war, they’d just want war to preserve white primacy which a war with China would starkly exemplify. Now, their war with Iran, a second rate enemy, willl consume their power and springboard Iran to a regional power.
After the war, you think Iran will come out much stronger after rebuild?
Currently as of 19/3/2026, they hold the strait of Hormuz, their proxies in eastern Iraq could conceivably pull a saddam Hussein and take eastern Saudi oil fields, this would give them about 40% of the oil production, assuming it’s not blown to crap, but even if it was, the strait Hormuz means they can dictate what oil is traded in, the toll income alone would rebuild Iran, not including any Chinese Marshall plans.
Looks like Epstein spent at least 50% of his day writing emails, lol. Kinda feel bad for the guy since he got clapped before being able to use AI to shorten that time down by ten-fold. Oh well. Sucks for him I guess. Wonder if they have AI in hell yet.
FriedRiceNSpice
Major
When NATO was on Russia's Western borders and the West was the dominant global power, alignment with China made sense. From the warring states period, we have the axiom: a weaker state with a strong neighbor should seek alliances with a more distant strong state. This is a universal axiom of geopolitical strategy that holds true across West and East. The fluff about China being the future and having a superior model of governance and economics is completely irrelevant when it comes to geostrategic considerations.
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