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quim said:

But they've already managed to trap Iran in this scheme since the 1979 revolution.

What you all overlook is that what's at stake is the survival of Zionism in global politics.

The day a peaceful Iran emerges, even if it's with a Western puppet government, the right-wing parties allied with Netanyahu's group will be eradicated from Western governments due to the demographic shift of other parties, and Israeli politics will be isolated. The carte blanche will end.

Therefore, it will never be in Israel's interest to leave Iran as a peaceful and internationally accepted country. The plan has always been to have Iran as a controlled and limited opposition, just like ISIS, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, a pariah on a larger scale.

And Iran has been like this since 1979. Khamenei always made deals with the older generation of American Zionist democrats and European social democrats, while the Iranian population has been kept divided between secular and religious factions, and Mossad DOMINATES all state structures. Thus, they only need to keep Iran even more divided and politically disorganized than it has been since 1979, but now making deals with Republicans and western Zionists who will only survive in right-wing groups.

BRICS threatened to integrate Iran to organize and strengthen its position. It was the risk of Iran's integration that forced Israel to demand US intervention. Isolating Iran and exposing BRICS is also in the interest of the Americans.

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If you need this long of explanation, it means Israel already lost, and offering a post-hoc optimization of a losing situation. The victory condition is simple: install a pro-US puppet gov't in Iran for long-term stability, or sabre rattle every 8 months until Iran develops its own nuclear weapons. Everything else is just copium. Iran is way too sophisticated to be an mega-Syria or mega-ISIS to be fractured at Israel's whim with bombs or Mossad or backdoor deals. What is this immature empire mentality, like zero empire building experience by Israelis, as if they are run by arm-chair RPG roleplayers.

Phead128 said:

If you need this long of explanation, it means Israel already lost, and offering a post-hoc optimization of a losing situation. The victory condition is simple: install a pro-US puppet gov't in Iran for long-term stability, or sabre rattle every 8 months until Iran develops its own nuclear weapons. Everything else is just copium. Iran is way too sophisticated to be an mega-Syria or mega-ISIS to be fractured at Israel's whim with bombs or Mossad or backdoor deals. What is this immature empire mentality, like zero empire building experience by Israelis, as if they are run by arm-chair RPG roleplayers.

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You're overlooking the real issue again. Stability in the region isn't something Israel wants; it doesn't favor them politically. And the US only does what Israel asks. Iran is already very fractured and incompetent, which is why it has given Israel everything the Zionists have wanted all this time.

Without instability in the Middle East, Israel would never have even existed.

FriedRiceNSpice said:

Are you joking?

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Are you talking about Buddhist nationalism or unifying with Myanmar

quim said:

You're overlooking the real issue again. Stability in the region isn't something Israel wants; it doesn't favor them politically. And the US only does what Israel asks. Iran is already very fractured and incompetent, which is why it has given Israel everything the Zionists have wanted all this time.

Without instability in the Middle East, Israel would never have even existed.

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No? Israel getting hit by missiles every 8 months serves Israel's goals? Iran on verge of nuclear weapons serves Israel's goals? A pro-US regime change will serve Israel interest long-term, to permanently remove the nuclear threat. Somehow Iran is too weak (fractured, weak, Mossad infiltrated) and too strong (agency for nukes, agency for retaliation, agency for BRICS), which is it?

quim said:

The day a peaceful Iran emerges, even if it's with a Western puppet government, the right-wing parties allied with Netanyahu's group will be eradicated from Western governments due to the demographic shift of other parties, and Israeli politics will be isolated. The carte blanche will end.

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Lol, no it won't, what kind of deluded thought is that?. You are basically disregarding the entirety of western history since the end of WW2.

They'll just find a new enemy, either an existing one or will create it, just like the enemy during the Cold War was the USSR and once that enemy was gone, they actually went further to the right and now the enemy became, nebolous flexible identifiers like "terrorists and terrorists supporting regimes in the middle east", "weapons of mass destruction" and "islam".

Then they added Russia again to the mix and after 2015, its also China on the list of potential enemies that need to be curbed. Fascism requires an eternal fight to justify its existence, its policies and sustain itself; "if we defeat this enemy we will totally achieve greatness, so put up with this draconian measures because its for the best"

siegecrossbow said:

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Of course this war benefits China massively. Even more than Russia. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that.

Talking about China’s "energy dependence" on Hormuz is focusing on one tree and ignoring the whole forest.

That is exactly why it caught me off guard when some Chinese, supposedly "objective" accounts tried to argue otherwise.

Realistically, there is maybe a one percent chance China was not already helping Iran in advance, and is not actively helping now.

Not because they are "allies" in a Western sense, but because this is a perfect, god-sent quagmire for the United States, which is still China’s biggest geopolitical threat.

From Beijing’s perspective, it is far better for the US to get dragged into a long, exhausting conflict in Iran and bleed itself there than to stay relatively intact and shift its focus toward provoking a direct war with China over Taiwan again.

Because if that second scenario happens, and the US starts collapsing in a war closer to China’s doorstep, the risk of extreme escalation, with nuclear use out of American inevitable desperation and humiliation, becomes far more dangerous.

Some people say China prefers stability, so that is why it would not support a war like this.

I think that gets it backwards. Precisely because China prefers strategic stability, it has every reason to support this war in Iran.

This may be the least risky and least painful path for the American empire to finally burn itself out and hence for them to die as a nation, instead of forcing that process to complete in China’s own backyard.

And even if the US does not actually collapse in Iran, a prolonged conflict there would still leave it weaker, more overstretched, and more exposed by the time a Taiwan crisis begins.

That is why I think China will keep Iran supplied with all kinds of intelligence, materials, components, and tools, the same way it has quietly helped Russia in Ukraine 100%.

In fact, Chinese high-tech support probably already outweighed the effects of the earlier Mossad-backed color revolution, which also exposed many of their assets on the ground, and all of that may have helped accelerate this war in the first place.

China’s style is quiet support, limited visibility, and minimal diplomatic blowback.

And that works partly because most Westoids are too stupid and primitive to describe what is happening properly.

GulfLander said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029747493932781871

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I've been reading some of Keating's older material recently, such as 2001 speech on Australia's relations with China. But the most surprising thing I have encountered to date is that he actually met with Xi Jinping in his role on the International Advisory Council of the China Development Bank, the anecdote being contained in sweeping 2016 retrospective on Keating's history with and perspective on China.

Still, the best of Keating are always the insults:

Faisal Iqbal said:

One thing of note is whenever there is vacuume created due to whichever casue or policy, it will be filled again, so when the chinese urban population got elevated from simple life (almost poverty) to prosperity due to opening of economy, solace that newly found bourgeois class found is in the Christianity, its the fastest growing religion in China today and in near future China will be country with largest Christian population in the world.

In most of theology debates in comparative studies in modern times, leading apologists are always chinese Doctors of Divinity (DD), missionaries or clergy, their newly found relgious zeal is very evident, so the thing that didn't take root for almost 2 thousand years, this internal strife between ideologies and cultural revolution provided it with very fertile ground to take root.

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Uh no Christianity is at most 1% percent of the population and is not growing at all especially since conversion is illegal in China now.

A potato said:

Are you talking about Buddhist nationalism or unifying with Myanmar

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All of the above.