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MortyandRick

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Firstly, @manqiangrexue wrote "China leading in 90% technologies". He's using ASPI tracker which measure certain things, to draw inference on state of play in various tech.

Secondly, ASPI's tracker for example in Generative AI makes no sense because most research in Generative AI happens within large firms, few of which open source anything. Other than that, the top papers in NeurIPS etc. (not the total papers) are still coming from the US. It requires deep understanding of the field to understand who is ahead on what. Counting total publications in list of journals is one very heavily skewed metric, which @manqiangrexue believes when it shows China leading but discards when it shows China not leading.
Yes it takes a deep understanding in the field, so please tell us why ASIPs methodology is wrong?

It's a critical technology tracker. If they were biased with this tracker like you say, to get more finding, how did they skew and bias the tracker in their methodology? Enlighten us? I'm genuinely interested to know how they made a biased tech tracker report? Please educate us.
 

manqiangrexue

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Yes it takes a deep understanding in the field, so please tell us why ASIPs methodology is wrong?

It's a critical technology tracker. If they were biased with this tracker like you say, to get more finding, how did they skew and bias the tracker in their methodology? Enlighten us? I'm genuinely interested to know how they made a biased tech tracker report? Please educate us.
Oh that's easy; he already stated it. It's according to his logic that if something says Chinese tech is ahead, then it's because it was obviously written to scare the US into putting more money into tech. LMFAO Look at the US right now!! You have trade wars/economic shakedowns of allies, threatened invasions of Canada and Greenland, ICE Nazis going door to door asking where the Asians and Latinos are while arresting some 200 US citizens! Scare this country?? It's not even recognizable anymore and all of it if from fear of China; America never acted like this before the China challenge reared its head. Scaring a country like this is just cruel; it's like jump-scaring mental hospital patients. If anything, telling the US that China has already surpassed them at 90% of critical tech is just demoralizing and it tells them to just give up with some grace.

And another thing, @jli88 How many of the publications in the US were done by Chinese researchers? How many US papers were authored by Zhang, Li, Zhao, etc...? I'm not going to speculate on exactly where everyone's true allegiance is or how many Chinese ultimately go home when they have something worth contributing but I'm telling you with 100% honesty, if a large portion of the critical tech papers coming out of China were done by Smith, Johnson, Jones, etc..., I'd be very very worried, especially about being in a conflict with their home country.
 

AssassinsMace

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Wow! I’ve been going through reactions on the Canadian deal with China in Canada and it’s like night and day depending on what you’re looking at. On one hand you have Canadians that hate Trump that are looking forward at the opportunity of buying Chinese EVs then on the more conservative sites, they sound just like Republican right-wingers. There’s no mix of opinions. Just one side or the other. The thing is the conservatives sound like they’re just repeating what Americans right-wingers say and accuse.

Ford of Ontario not Detroit is claiming any Canadians driving a Chinese EV won’t be able to drive them in the US. Does he think the US can stop Chinese EVs from working in the US? Well how does he explain all the Mexicans driving their Chinese EVs in the southern parts of the US?
 

Temstar

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Wow! I’ve been going through reactions on the Canadian deal with China in Canada and it’s like night and day depending on what you’re looking at. On one hand you have Canadians that hate Trump that are looking forward at the opportunity of buying Chinese EVs then on the more conservative sites, they sound just like Republican right-wingers. There’s no mix of opinions. Just one side or the other. The thing is the conservatives sound like they’re just repeating what Americans right-wingers say and accuse.

Ford of Ontario not Detroit is claiming any Canadians driving a Chinese EV won’t be able to drive them in the US. Does he think the US can stop Chinese EVs from working in the US? Well how does he explain all the Mexicans driving their Chinese EVs in the southern parts of the US?
Right? You think they signed a Treaty of Nanking style unequal treaty ceding over Vancouver for 99 years instead of a trade deal judging by the response on the Canadian right:
 
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