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Laviduce

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Sub Brief nutjob argues that US criminality and piracy in the Caribbean near Venezuela is legal because of human rights violations in Venezuela according to the US neocon/neolib establishment:

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This is just surreal. Lots of other channels on YouTube have made the same arguments , defending this criminal behavior. Like it is totally normal for the US to dictate how countries are supposed to run their affairs. Unbelievable , how can this be real !?

Please some explain this lunacy to me. These people have lost the plot and gone of the deep end. Seriously WTF !?
 
sheogorath

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_killuminati_ said:
hat's the wrong way to go about it and exactly the phase they are stuck at - blaming others. The truth is: they were decadent and corrupt which allowed foreigners to exploit them. What they should be doing at this moment is blaming themselves - the core issue that still hasn't been solved.
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You'd have a point if it wasn't that whenever they decided to move past that and go for leaders that would prioritize their own sovereignty over western interests, they would get coup'd by the same western actors. Its easy to claim its just them being stuck in their ways and completely disregard the fact that the West still excerted massive amounts of influence to keep things the way the were in the context of the Cold War to a point it becomes generational.

So yes, the west still gets to keep the blame because this wasn't a once-and-done thing and has been ongoing for more than 100 years. The crushing of the Arab Spring in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE was done with full support of the West and unless someone else is willing to step up to provide support to anti-wahabbist and anti-western movements, it will remain that way.

You just can't hand wave away the effects of western imperialism and colonialism just because, specially since they keep exploiting it. Look at how ISIS cells suddenly spring up whenever someone kicks out the Frogs.
 
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Laviduce said:
Sub Brief nutjob argues that US criminality and piracy in the Caribbean near Venezuela is legal because of human rights violations in Venezuela according to the US neocon/neolib establishment:
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The logic isn't wrong, but it generally requires a UN resolution authorizing action in order to be legal.

We all know that this has nothing to do with human rights. Plus, United States is one of the primary causes of the human rights/humanitarian crisis issues in Venezuela.
 
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sheogorath said:
You'd have a point if it wasn't that whenever they decided to move past that and go for leaders that would prioritize their own sovereignty over western interests, they would get coup'd by the same western actors. Its easy to claim its just them being stuck in their ways and completely disregard the fact that the West still excerted massive amounts of influence to keep things the way the were in the context of the Cold War to a point it becomes generational.

So yes, the west still gets to keep the blame because this wasn't a once-and-done thing and has been ongoing for more than 100 years. The crushing of the Arab Spring in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE was done with full support of the West and unless someone else is willing to step up to provide support to anti-wahabbist and anti-western movements, it will remain that way.

You just can't hand wave away the effects of western imperialism and colonialism just because, specially since they keep exploiting it. Look at how ISIS cells suddenly spring up whenever someone kicks out the Frogs.
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You're missing the point. Western imperialism succeeded there because there were enough corrupt people there to corroborate with. Barbarians do what barbarians do; are you gonna blame the barbarian for it's innate nature while your own folk are drowning in venality?

Mongols gave an important lesson to the Arabs which they forgot - when the Abbasi caliph was imprisoned, he begged for food; Hulagu Khan gave him a plate of gold to eat out of his own treasury. Then he was rolled in a carpet and trampled under Mongol horses.

ISIS is another example. Why did it fail in Afghanistan? Because hardly any locals were interested in their ideology.

Afghanistan itself is a great example of Western imperialism failure. During the war, the vast majority of Afghans refused to cooperate with the West.
 
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HereToSeePics

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tamsen_ikard said:
Just cause East Asians are western worshippers, don't assume everyone is the same. India and Middle-East have very strict restrictions on foreigner marriages culturally. There is also religious factors. These cultures are much more obsessed about religion than East Asia ever was.
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Chevalier

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supersnoop said:
I think it is even worse when the west simultaneously promotes wahabbism as “proper” Islam, then wonders why there are so many terror attacks
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It’s up there with Jewish groups promoting open borders and unregulated immigration from Muslim countries and wondering why the rising tide of political Islam in the west menas anti Israeli political movements. Ashkenazi IQ, up there with terms terms like “military intelligence” and “fat free yogurt”.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2000910307879760343

check it out guys, the very best of American bro science cia marketing reckon its going to invent a Time Machine and fight china of the 1950s.
 
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