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tamsen_ikard said:

Just cause East Asians are western worshippers, don't assume everyone is the same. India and Middle-East have very strict restrictions on foreigner marriages culturally. There is also religious factors. These cultures are much more obsessed about religion than East Asia ever was.

Finally, they don't consider the west to be culturally superior. They usually consider west to be decadent and look down upon western culture. So, instead of looking up on the western men, they look down on them. This is the big difference between East Asia and India/Middle-East. East Asians consider Western Culture to be superior and paragon to follow. They also consider western tech, wealth to be the ultimate status symbol.

Not all cultures are as obsessed about tech and wealth as East Asians are.

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Randomuser said:

You are talking about India where their dream is to get into IIT and become CEO of an American tech company. A place that uses OpenAi the most. A place where Ambani spent 600 million on a wedding and paid Rihanna 9 million to show up.

You are talking about the middle east where places like Saudi Arabia and Dubai waste loads of money flaunting wealth buying golden cars and overpaying for celebrities to go there.

Get real. People have eyes you know. If anything it sounds like being overly religious there is just used to cope (and possibly to suppress) for the lower class poor people while the much richer ignore most of the religion and live the western lifestyle they want. I'm a hard religious conservative guys! It totally has nothing to do with my social standing! Basically sour grapes.

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Randomuser said:

You are talking about India where their dream is to get into IIT and become CEO of an American tech company. They even made a popular movie on this and its a film thats actually good. A place that uses OpenAi the most. A place where Ambani spent 600 million on a wedding and paid Rihanna 9 million to show up.

You are talking about the middle east where places like Saudi Arabia and Dubai waste loads of money flaunting wealth buying golden cars and overpaying for celebrities to go there. Where victoria supermodels go to get literally crapped on at parties.

Get real. People have eyes you know. If anything it sounds like being overly religious there is just used to cope (and possibly to suppress) for the lower class poor people while the much richer ignore most of the religion and live the western lifestyle they want. I'm a hard religious conservative guys! It totally has nothing to do with my social standing! Basically sour grapes.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Indians obsess over getting wealthy, and Arabs flaunt their wealth. But they do not worship the West for being wealthy or technologically advanced. No. They think highly of themselves and believe they are superior to Westerners. They think about their glorious past. Middle Eastern people talk about the Islamic Golden Age, while Indians talk about their own glorious past.

Indians and Middle Easterners do not have an inferiority complex. You could say they have a superiority complex. That is why many Muslims in the Middle East would rather become terrorists than adopt Western customs.

You can call this hubris or delusion, but this is what allows them to keep their cultural practices intact. Indians and Middle Easterners have kept their traditional clothing alive and still wear it daily. Compare that to East Asia, which has almost completely adopted Western clothing and wears traditional clothing mostly as a gimmick for photoshoots.

Moreover, Middle Easterners or Indians have no problem dating Western women and using them, but when it comes to marriage, they marry their own because they consider Western women decadent and not wife material. They also do not allow their own daughters, sisters, or female relatives to date or marry Westerners. That is a major taboo. As a result, marriage to Westerners is very low in these cultures.

I think East Asia basically looks down on its own culture and its own people. They think becoming like the West will give them prestige. This is why they adopt Western customs so enthusiastically and also have no problem if the women in their families marry foreigners.

So instead of hubris and a superiority complex, they have an inferiority complex.

Indians and Middle Easterners love to flaunt their culture as the best in the world, but East Asians try to avoid it. Indians and Muslims, for example, rarely adopt English names just to fit in, but East Asians do it freely.

There are countless such examples that show the difference between the East Asian worldview and the Indian or Middle Eastern worldview.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Indians obsess over getting wealthy, and Arabs flaunt their wealth. But they do not worship the West for being wealthy or technologically advanced. No. They think highly of themselves and believe they are superior to Westerners. They think about their glorious past. Middle Eastern people talk about the Islamic Golden Age, while Indians talk about their own glorious past.

Indians and Middle Easterners do not have an inferiority complex. You could say they have a superiority complex. That is why many Muslims in the Middle East would rather become terrorists than adopt Western customs.

You can call this hubris or delusion, but this is what allows them to keep their cultural practices intact. Indians and Middle Easterners have kept their traditional clothing alive and still wear it daily. Compare that to East Asia, which has almost completely adopted Western clothing and wears traditional clothing mostly as a gimmick for photoshoots.

Moreover, Middle Easterners or Indians have no problem dating Western women and using them, but when it comes to marriage, they marry their own because they consider Western women decadent and not wife material. They also do not allow their own daughters, sisters, or female relatives to date or marry Westerners. That is a major taboo. As a result, marriage to Westerners is very low in these cultures.

I think East Asia basically looks down on its own culture and its own people. They think becoming like the West will give them prestige. This is why they adopt Western customs so enthusiastically and also have no problem if the women in their families marry foreigners.

So instead of hubris and a superiority complex, they have an inferiority complex.

Indians and Middle Easterners love to flaunt their culture as the best in the world, but East Asians try to avoid it. Indians and Muslims, for example, rarely adopt English names just to fit in, but East Asians do it freely.

There are countless such examples that show the difference between the East Asian worldview and the Indian or Middle Eastern worldview.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Indians obsess over getting wealthy, and Arabs flaunt their wealth. But they do not worship the West for being wealthy or technologically advanced. No. They think highly of themselves and believe they are superior to Westerners. They think about their glorious past. Middle Eastern people talk about the Islamic Golden Age, while Indians talk about their own glorious past.

Indians and Middle Easterners do not have an inferiority complex. You could say they have a superiority complex. That is why many Muslims in the Middle East would rather become terrorists than adopt Western customs.

You can call this hubris or delusion, but this is what allows them to keep their cultural practices intact. Indians and Middle Easterners have kept their traditional clothing alive and still wear it daily. Compare that to East Asia, which has almost completely adopted Western clothing and wears traditional clothing mostly as a gimmick for photoshoots.

Moreover, Middle Easterners or Indians have no problem dating Western women and using them, but when it comes to marriage, they marry their own because they consider Western women decadent and not wife material. They also do not allow their own daughters, sisters, or female relatives to date or marry Westerners. That is a major taboo. As a result, marriage to Westerners is very low in these cultures.

I think East Asia basically looks down on its own culture and its own people. They think becoming like the West will give them prestige. This is why they adopt Western customs so enthusiastically and also have no problem if the women in their families marry foreigners.

So instead of hubris and a superiority complex, they have an inferiority complex.

Indians and Middle Easterners love to flaunt their culture as the best in the world, but East Asians try to avoid it. Indians and Muslims, for example, rarely adopt English names just to fit in, but East Asians do it freely.

There are countless such examples that show the difference between the East Asian worldview and the Indian or Middle Eastern worldview.

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FriedButter said:

Turns out Iraq Venezuela is actually hiding several hundred million WMDs ready to be launched on America.

Operation Iraqi Venezuelan Freedom 2003 2025

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RavenClaws said:

This is also how East Asians reacted in the beginning as well.

Japan and China both considered the West as beneath them culturally, but still were forced to open up and eventually modernize. Japan did it faster with the Meiji Restoration while China had to overthrow the Qing dynasty first. Still, Qing officials used to emphasize their customs and outrageously different clothings when dealing with foreign officials (while signing incredibly humiliating and nation-selling treaties of course), but its just a useless self aggrandizing attempt at denial.

Just 40 years ago too, when mainland China experienced perhaps the lowest comparative economic and military standing to not only the west but also its immediate neighbours in the 80s, there was constant reference to ancient greatness of the Tang dynasty or the great inventions and economy of the Song, how ancient China invented this first and used that first, etc. But everyone knew that the west and Japan completely surpassed us at the time.

China of today no longer need to flaunt the glory of the past dynasties or the four great inventions all the time now. China has actual confidence in both its modern strength and historical greatness. There is currently a great revival movement of Hanfu going on in China right as we speak (traditional hanfu is way better looking than the Manchu stuff to be honest). This movement is not some clinging to past greatness but actual realization and rediscovery under true confidence.

Indians and Arabs still live in unequal and non-modernized states stuck in that phase of delusional denial. They cling to the old ways and the cultural superiority because they know that's all they have, and deep inside they feel so insecure that they keep flaunting wealth and power constantly.

Indians, Iranians and Arabs may voice some anti-imperialism rhetoric here and there, but by their actions it clearly shows they actually look up to and idolize the West, and would absolutely like to buy into the western-centric world order as long as they are guaranteed a higher place than the "others". If it weren't the fact that the imperalists are imperializing them so hard that they have no choice but to scream back a bit, they'd happily act as sepoys as long as they are not at the bottom of the totem pole.

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Putin called for Chechnya to be followed in demographic matters.

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FriedButter said:

Messi was scheduled to be in the stadium for a 60 minute visit. He only stayed for 20 minutes.

India also built an 70ft or 21m iron statue of Messi and he wasn’t there for the unveiling either. Apparently, it cost a few to several million USD of taxpayers money.

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AssassinsMace said:

There have been articles I recall reading that MAGA are obsessed with (Far East) Asian women because they of course (stereotypically) embody the subservient woman they demand women play. From what I gather is to MAGA, Indians are seen as black. That’s why big suck ups like Vivek Ramaswamy aren’t even getting a break. Remember Gandhi went to South Africa because he wanted to change the racial hierarchy seen there which was Indians were at the same level as Africans. I don’t think Afrikaners had some uniquely different perspective on race than Europe. Just look at the pressure JD Vance is said to be getting from MAGA. The hardcore don’t want any race mixing and they account for around 30% of the Republican base.

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Puss in Boots said:

Your conclusion is quite unconvincing. India's admiration for developed Western countries is unparalleled; they may only exercise restraint on religious issues.

Or to put it bluntly, ordinary Indian women seem to lack sufficient social status to decide their own marriage choices, which explains the phenomenon of few Indian women marrying foreigners.

Yet you interpret this as Indians' contempt for Western culture.

Social Perspective: Autonomy Is Often Limited​

• Arranged Marriages Dominate: Around 80-90% of marriages in India are still arranged, where parents or families lead the matching process. Many women have veto power, but due to social pressure (such as "family honor" or expectations), they struggle to exercise it. Some arranged marriages evolve into "semi-arranged," where women meet the partner beforehand, but the final decision remains influenced by family.
• Cultural and Traditional Factors:
  • Caste and religious endogamy are deeply rooted; inter-caste or inter-faith marriages often face opposition, even violence (honor killings).
  • Rural areas are more conservative, with child marriages and forced marriages still occurring (though child marriage rates dropped from 47% in 2005 to 27% in 2016).
  • Women are often seen as carriers of family "honor"; rejecting an arranged match can lead to social isolation, violence, or economic dependence issues.
• Changing Trends: With urbanization and higher education, "self-arranged" or love marriages are increasing among the younger generation, especially educated women. More women are choosing to remain single. However, the overall divorce rate is very low (about 1%), and many women endure unhappy marriages due to economic dependence, social stigma, or concerns for children.

In summary, legally, yes—Indian women have complete rights to decide their own marriages; but socially, not always, as many still face significant pressure. In recent years, with rising education, urbanization, and women's awareness, autonomy is gradually strengthening, but change still takes time.

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