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Puss in Boots

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It's not china problems, so why would china care anyways when china is obligated to their own people and national survival are above all.
I don't know how to evaluate your statement. If you can't coexist amicably with your neighbor, then war is all that awaits you. Are you planning to commit "genocide" to completely eliminate the threat from your neighbor? That's an exaggeration, and I advise you to change that mindset as soon as possible.
Chinese survival environment is also affect by Russian action to bring India to balance. We need to understand this as well
Taking actions for one's own safety is understandable and acceptable; strengthening defenses is always the right thing to do. However, using aggressive behavior to achieve absolute safety is unacceptable.
 

resistance

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I don't know how to evaluate your statement. If you can't coexist amicably with your neighbor, then war is all that awaits you. Are you planning to commit "genocide" to completely eliminate the threat from your neighbor? That's an exaggeration, and I advise you to change that mindset as soon as possible.
Not everything can be win-win. It's the harsh reality of the world. Anyways, china has full right to use her own water inside their for her own people, Chinese wouldn't be aggressor here if war broke out
Taking actions for one's own safety is understandable and acceptable; strengthening defenses is always the right thing to do. However, using aggressive behavior to achieve absolute safety is unacceptable.
That's absolutely what Russia doing.
 

CMP

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I don't know how to evaluate your statement. If you can't coexist amicably with your neighbor, then war is all that awaits you. Are you planning to commit "genocide" to completely eliminate the threat from your neighbor? That's an exaggeration, and I advise you to change that mindset as soon as possible.

Taking actions for one's own safety is understandable and acceptable; strengthening defenses is always the right thing to do. However, using aggressive behavior to achieve absolute safety is unacceptable.
It's Chinese water in Chinese territory and only for China to use. Outsiders have no say in this and are free to wage war over it if they wish. We'll have the pleasure of getting to watch the entire IAF get shot down.
 

Puss in Boots

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Not everything can be win-win. It's the harsh reality of the world. Anyways, china has full right to use her own water inside their for her own people, Chinese wouldn't be aggressor here if war broke out

That's absolutely what Russia doing.
It's Chinese water in Chinese territory and only for China to use. Outsiders have no say in this and are free to wage war over it if they wish. We'll have the pleasure of getting to watch the entire IAF get shot down.
Water resources flowing through multiple countries cannot be used arbitrarily; this is a fundamental consensus in international relations. Even provinces along the upper and lower reaches of the Yangtze River need to negotiate water resource allocation.
The Russia-Ukraine war currently falls within my understanding of a "self-defense counterattack." Russia's offensive will only be considered an act of aggression after Ukraine promises not to seek NATO membership and to eliminate Nazi elements. This is merely my opinion.
 

resistance

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Water resources flowing through multiple countries cannot be used arbitrarily; this is a fundamental consensus in international relations. Even provinces along the upper and lower reaches of the Yangtze River need to negotiate water resource allocation.
The Russia-Ukraine war currently falls within my understanding of a "self-defense counterattack." Russia's offensive will only be considered an act of aggression after Ukraine promises not to seek NATO membership and to eliminate Nazi elements. This is merely my opinion.
China aren't even in UN watercourse treaty or any such treaties so china is in free hands to do anything. While Chinese province allocation of water is internal matters.
Can china also attack Russia when Russia try to join NATO in 2000s?
 
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AssassinsMace

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I’m sure there are Russians that would rather be a part of the Western alliance but it’s also just an attempt to create a divide. It’s just a new spin because the last time it was Russian intelligence not the Russian elite that was saying the same thing. The Business Insider… straight up anti-China and known liar.
If there’s any ounce of intelligence in Russia, they should know that the current situation where Russia surviving Western sanctions was because the West was stupid enough to take on both Russia and China. If the West didn’t go after China, Russia would be in a much more difficult position now. It was these Russian elites that had their money seized that the West is threatening to now give to Ukraine. Somehow Russians think they would’ve escaped that same Western elitist snobbery that has thumbed their noses at Russia for over a hundred years even before communism?

The problem for the Chinese is something I’ve noted before is the cultural mentality to respect authority no matter what. When you believe in that, it’s an acknowledgment that someone will always be above you no matter what. Because of that, the Chinese want affirmation from whoever is the authority no matter what. What is affirmation? Wanting acceptance… wanting to be up there at the top with the elites.

And who is the established authority in the world right now? The US. Even though the US sees the Chinese under personal racist terms, the Chinese still seek to work with that authority because it’s better than confrontation to which Chinese want to avoid because they see that as generally leading to chaos and instability in society to which China has had a history of it leading to great turmoil. And why would the Chinese elites want this to be instilled in the Chinese people? Because they wanted no one to question their authority no matter what… Their mistake was thinking that they would always be the one in authority all the time but because no matter what also means no exceptions and that’s including if the authority is racist like the West. Who is going to question that the US is not the leading power in the world?

That is the mistake of Chinese culture in believing that there are no exceptions to who is considered an authority being anyone who is in power no matter how they got there. If the Chinese hold respect for the US, why would anyone choose the Chinese over the US when the Chinese don’t even choose themselves over the US? Even Beijing upholds that belief when they still want to be a part of the International Space Station despite having their own space station. Why? Because that’s an acknowledgement that China is a part of an already established great, by the West, club of elites that have achieved something that is considered grand in the world.

Why does Japan, South Korea, and many other Asian countries choose the US despite of how Western racism automatically looks down at them? In many Far East nations it’s the curse of Confucianism and the same respect for authority no matter what that they adopted.

Ironic because the Chinese wanted to avoid chaos and instability by demanding everyone obey no matter what has only reduced society into a form of selfishness where everyone has to look out for themselves or be left out. And that’s what people in power want to have everyone seek their personal affirmation as being most important. Why do you think Asians tend to be rabidly nationalistic?

The first step to knocking off the US and the West off their perch where they can look down and thumb their nose at everyone is for the Chinese themselves to stop looking at them as an authority in anything. One of the reasons why everyone looks at them in a higher position than China is because the Chinese look at a them in a higher position. That’s also why the US thinks they’re exceptional and indispensable because no matter how abusive and insulting they are to everyone else, people are still going to suck up to them because everyone else is.
 

Puss in Boots

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China aren't even in UN watercourse treaty or any such treaties so china is in free hands to do anything. While Chinese province allocation of water is internal matters.
Can china also attack Russia when Russia try to join NATO in 2000s?
Wang Yi often says, "You can choose your friends, but you can never choose your neighbors." This statement is easy to understand; being kind to your neighbors is never wrong.
During the India-Pakistan conflict this year, India used dams on the upper Indus River to threaten Pakistan. I'd like to know your assessment of this.
How can we be sure that China didn't play a role in preventing Russia from joining NATO at that time? Given China's capabilities at the time, attacking Russia was clearly impossible, but there's more than one way to solve a problem.
 

resistance

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Wang Yi often says, "You can choose your friends, but you can never choose your neighbors." This statement is easy to understand; being kind to your neighbors is never wrong.
Balkanized India and you will get new neighbors to choose. Also, why aren't Russia being kind to Ukraine?
During the India-Pakistan conflict this year, India used dams on the upper Indus River to threaten Pakistan. I'd like to know your assessment of this.
That's why it's the reason china should do the same, even in larger scale. Btw, Pakistan and India has treaty, show me the treaty with china then.

How can we be sure that China didn't play a role in preventing Russia from joining NATO at that time? Given China's capabilities at the time, attacking Russia was clearly impossible, but there's more than one way to solve a problem.
What I ask if can china do the same thing when you bring your own moral standard.
 

Puss in Boots

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One of the reasons why everyone looks at them in a higher position than China is because the Chinese look at a them in a higher position.
If China were content to be a second-rate power, it wouldn't have uttered the phrase "a great transformation unseen in a century."
You need to delve into the development history of the People's Republic of China. If China were content to be second, it wouldn't have broken with the Soviet Union.
 
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