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hashtagpls

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BoraTas said:
I found a few interesting things in the article.

"The information they gathered made it clear that the FE had helped the NSA to spy on leading politicians in Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands and France, as well as Germany."

It is interesting that the US spies on all of its allies. Including very pro-US ones like Norway. It is also interesting that another country from the same alliance joins this despite bordering the target countries.

"Danish intelligence also helped the US agency to spy on the Danish foreign and finance ministries as well as a Danish weapons manufacturer."

Spying on your own country for a foreign country. Introduction to treason 101.

"The FE also cooperated with the NSA on spying operations against the US government itself."

Well... This is getting weird. The NSA is committing treason too. Why would the US spy on itself? Are there extrajudicial mechanisms in the US to keep the bureaucrats in line? How this is even democratic? This straight out of the Soviet Union's playbook.

"Patrick Sensburg, who led the German parliamentary committee to investigate the NSA spying scandal, was not surprised by the news. For the lawmaker from Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU), it is important to understand what drives secret services.

"It's not about friendships. It's not about moral-ethical aspirations. It's about pursuing interests," he told NDR."

Germans are again very rational.
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In Australia it was discovered that a sitting government minister was passing intel onto the americas and nothing happened; this fucker actually got promoted.

It really makes more sense to view the 'west' as a race oriented apartheid empire with the anglos at the top and lesser whites below them.
 
NiuBiDaRen

NiuBiDaRen

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james smith esq said:
It’s America; people are supposed to get shot!
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I don't mind if America becomes full blown Grand Theft Auto Vice City or Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

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gelgoog

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solarz said:
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You cannot explain this with classical Chinese philosophy. Banks were privately owned in imperial China and the rulers never paid them much attention. You cannot explain this with Capitalist theory either, because according to that theory, those banks and petroleum firms should have been privatized.
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Socialist economics basically states that you are better off with state owned natural monopolies. If you privatize a natural monopoly you will basically get a rent seeking parasite which will suck resources out of the rest of the economy. In Europe it used to be that water companies, power companies, railroads were state owned because they saw that as fact. Ever since the Soviet Union collapsed, there has been an accelerated disintegration of the state corporate sector in Europe. So you get an increase in rent seeking extractive private corporations which drag down the whole economy. This was sold as being economically more efficient because according to liberal economics the state isn't supposed to be able to manage anything properly. China stayed well clear of this kind of privatization which is why they did so well I think.

Market socialist economics also basically state that it is important for the state to provide easy access to loans in order to have investments to grow the economy. So you are supposed to include a state banking sector.
 
canniBUS

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gelgoog said:
Socialist economics basically states that you are better off with state owned natural monopolies. If you privatize a natural monopoly you will basically get a rent seeking parasite which will suck resources out of the rest of the economy. In Europe it used to be that water companies, power companies, railroads were state owned because they saw that as fact. Ever since the Soviet Union collapsed, there has been an accelerated disintegration of the state corporate sector in Europe. So you get an increase in rent seeking extractive private corporations which drag down the whole economy. This was sold as being economically more efficient. China stayed well clear of this kind of privatization which is why they did so well I think.

Market socialist economics also basically state that it is important for the state to provide easy access to loans in order to have investments to grow the economy. So you are supposed to include a state banking sector.
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Well said, people interested in learning more on this topic can read the works of Michael Hudson or watch his numerous youtube lectures on economics. One interesting note is that the Chinese government has hired Dr. Hudson as an advisor on economic and financial matters.
 
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voyager1

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  • In a joint statement after their meeting in New Zealand, the leaders expressed concern about the situations in Hong Kong, Xinjiang and the South China Sea
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the leaders expressed concern about deteriorating freedoms in Hong Kong, the treatment of ethnic minority Uygurs in Xinjiang, and the “militarisation of disputed features and an intensification of destabilising activities” in the South China Sea.
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In an increasingly complex geostrategic environment, “family is incredibly important, and Australia, you are family”, she said.
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Their statement also raised concern about “harmful economic coercion”, an apparent reference to Beijing’s campaign of economic retaliation against Australia
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Ardern said Wellington’s commitment to the Five Eyes alliance was “not in question, not in doubt”.
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