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Expert1324

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FairAndUnbiased said:
quietly forgetting about it is a constitutional crisis though, since TikTok ban is a federal law passed by US Congress. It would mean that the president can ignore any law that is inconvenient to enforce.

There's no win here other than scaring Bytedance into an unfair sale. Ban, fair sale or forgetting are all losses.
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I did not consider this! you have a really good point, a non-decision is in fact a ticking time bomb.

But optimistically, the idea is that the next administration is less crazy than Trump, and they would see how banning tiktok is a blatant violation of their own country's constitution. Not to mention even if they are dead set on being anti-china, they will still need to listen to public sentiment. And after the Trump administration, I believe that there will be a HUGE public scrutiny about governmental overreach, which would be in benefit of Tiktok.

We will see how it goes, these are just educated guesses.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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Expert1324 said:
I did not consider this! you have a really good point, a non-decision is in fact a ticking time bomb.

But optimistically, the idea is that the next administration is less crazy than Trump, and they would see how banning tiktok is a blatant violation of their own country's constitution. Not to mention even if they are dead set on being anti-china, they will still need to listen to public sentiment. And after the Trump administration, I believe that there will be a HUGE public scrutiny about governmental overreach, which would be in benefit of Tiktok.

We will see how it goes, these are just educated guesses.
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A conversation about government overreach is the LAST thing anyone in power wants. In addition, once a constitutional crisis has occurred and not immediately rectified, under common law it sets legal precedent, so even going back on it will require passage of further federal law... which has the precedent of selective enforcement.

At this point, all that has to happen is preventing an unfair sale whether by government force or ByteDance not seeing a good enough deal, and everything else that happens, happens.
 
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iewgnem

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FairAndUnbiased said:
The branding rights question is key. Do they only get the branding rights in the US or globally as TikTok?

If they get it only in the US it is an absolute loss for them as everyone will know TikTok US is the knockoff version and original TikTok is still global. They'd also have to actively block Americans from jumping ship from the censored TikTok USA to alternatives.

If they get the global branding rights that is far worse.
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They have to buy branding rights if they want to keep using the TikTok logo for TikTok USA, this is a non-issue.
Global branding is also a non-issue since you can't have branding rights of something you don't own, and they don't own TikTok global.

They also won't block American users from global since that'll just be banning TikTok with an extra step of paying ByteDance.

So at end of the day this is a very simple commercial transaction where US investors pay ByteDance for right to their US advertising revenue, gain right to censor content (the most important thing for them at this point), while ByteDance continue to curate content to American and international users on effectively the same platform.

When China banned algorithm export it was case closed right then and there, nothing more than this simple transaction could have ever happened.
 
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proelite

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100k fees for H1Bs is music to my tech bro ears. Fucking randoms with degrees from community colleges in Mybadabad goes to US for MS CS degree (80% of folks from India go this route) and then gate keeps with Java OOD interview questions or goes into management because they can't code.
 
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taxiya

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It is wasting breath and life to discuss the impact of such "deal" before knowing it actually exist. I can say I made a deal with Trump for US' total surrender but has not yet signed. Should people get excited and discuss its implication to the planet? I can say the deal is coming, just wait. Then I can destroy the "agreed deal" by demanding even more or emposing a new attack that "force" China to withdraw the "agreement". Who can prove that I am simply making up the whole thing that can never be proven non-existence or existence. Don't people see that Trump has been making a stage that only him is playing a show that is scripted by himself?

He made a "deal" earlier on that did not materialize as he said would have materialized, that is not a good record. It is best just ignore him until proven otherwise. A recorded scamer/criminal/lier should be presumed guilty until proven otherwise, that is my principle in dealing with any western politician.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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proelite said:
100k fees for H1Bs is music to my tech bro ears. Fucking randoms with degrees from community colleges in Mybadabad goes to US for MS CS degree (80% of folks from India go this route) and then gate keeps with Java OOD interview questions or goes into management because they can't code.
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Went to r/India when I read this and yep, did not disappoint.
 
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