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Overbom

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People like to blame outsiders all the time, but at the end of the day, there is a reason why shitholes were, are and will, remain shitholes

UNIDENTIFIED VOICE ACTOR #1: (As employee #1, reading) The Taliban forcibly took over our joint venture oil fields and unreasonably drove our Chinese personnel out of the oil field at gunpoint.



KUHN: He says the Taliban detained 12 Chinese employees in Kabul and confiscated their passports
KUHN: Xinjiang borders eastern Afghanistan. The second employee says the oil fields created thousands of jobs and millions of dollars in revenue for the Afghan government, but the Taliban was still not satisfied.

UNIDENTIFIED VOICE ACTOR #2: (As employee #2, reading) Their business mindset does not include win-win outcomes. Like a bandit committing a robbery, they think, if I like it, then it's mine.
China won't make too much noise but defo don't expect further FDI now that the whole world knows Afghan "business" tactics.
 

Maikeru

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People like to blame outsiders all the time, but at the end of the day, there is a reason why shitholes were, are and will, remain shitholes



China won't make too much noise but defo don't expect further FDI now that the whole world knows Afghan "business" tactics.
Uh, they were already well known. How much mineral development was there in the 20+ years the US was there? It wasn't that US companies weren't aware of the mineral deposits or didn't want to exploit them. Hell, conspiracy theorists back in the day claimed that was why the US invaded in the first place!

Best thing to do with Afghanistan is just to leave it well alone and hope it leaves you alone too. A lesson the UK, USSR and USA all learned at great cost, and which China can take advantage of for free.
 

Thecore

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Uh, they were already well known. How much mineral development was there in the 20+ years the US was there? It wasn't that US companies weren't aware of the mineral deposits or didn't want to exploit them. Hell, conspiracy theorists back in the day claimed that was why the US invaded in the first place!

Best thing to do with Afghanistan is just to leave it well alone and hope it leaves you alone too. A lesson the UK, USSR and USA all learned at great cost, and which China can take advantage of for free.
The UK, USSR and USA all bet tens of thousands of dollars at the rigged table. China slid over a 20 RMB chip and said "Hell, I'll risk a 20, let's give this a shot."
 

Africablack

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True, but investors have at least succeeded in getting large amounts of minerals out of Africa. After a lot of bother.
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There's nothing "true" about what he's saying. I will never understand this need to lump an entire continent into one. Is it that folks don't understand that Africa, like every other continent, has sovereign countries within it? Please this documentary is from the Congo, even among folks from the continent it's seen as a hopeless place.
 

Maikeru

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There's nothing "true" about what he's saying. I will never understand this need to lump an entire continent into one. Is it that folks don't understand that Africa, like every other continent, has sovereign countries within it? Please this documentary is from the Congo, even among folks from the continent it's seen as a hopeless place.
OK that is a fair point. Lots of diversity in Africa.
 

gelgoog

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Fine. Nearly all of Sub-Saharan Africa and Sahel then.

Why do you think the West stopped bothering with developing Africa for the most part?

If you take any money for your work you are stealing from them. That is how they see things. I knew a Western building contractor who was killed in Africa because of that. He was "stealing" from Africans because he had a job with a salary there. From their point of view an African should have had the job. Except he got the job because such a person wasn't around in the first place.

He left a wife and two kids.

Here is another such case:
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