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ansy1968

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Chinese strategy is very simple, to have escalatory dominance and winning it without fighting. The American had already forfeited the SCS to the Chinese because of this and we may see it happen in the 1st Island chain as well.

The US also know that they can't depend on her Vassal like SK and Japan because they're ASIAN, its as simple as that. Only the Five eyes like Australia and New Zealand can be depend upon to support the Hegemon aims cause if shit hit the fan, they can just leave the Asia pacific region and go back to their ancestral country.

Plus the Chinese will decide where to take the fight and will take the initiative away from the American. Building Carrier group and SSN you know which part of the theater they plan to confront the US.
 
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South Korea's Lee names first civilian defence minister in decades
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The U.S. embassy in Sweden said on Monday Americans in the country are "advised to exercise increased caution" due to local media reports on Iran potentially pressuring local criminal gangs to attack U.S. and Israeli interests.
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PLAwatcher12

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Will they? If Guam's air base is disabled, what surrounding air bases can support it?
If the air bases aren’t destroyed they will if they are they might still have air superiority if carriers are near it
The last country that think it can attack the world's largest industrial power and still keep their Pacific islands, they now have 120 military bases from the country they attack on their home soil. Once US fire on China or PLA, it's war and all claims to sovereignty are off. If US can't handle it, don't get involved in Taiwan, it's not hard.

US has air and naval superiority over Guam only during peacetime when the guy who actually has the ability to achieve superiority don't shoot them.
most probably will be destroyed but that’s not my point my point is your thinking after Taiwan, China will invade a country to take over US bases probably Japan, just so they can take Guam, they don’t need to take Guam to render the US ineffective in the first island chain
 

Thecore

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China can hit US bases in the mainland but they can only do it with missiles capable of carrying nukes, they can hit Guam and US bases in other countries though. Chinas main strikes if it comes to war will be much more limited than what the US can do, though striking Guam will be necessary as it’s where lots of major US military assets are. Striking South Korea, Japan or the Philippines is a lot more risky since striking them could potentially bring that country into war but striking Philippines wouldn’t be as big as a threat to China if they decide to join the war.
If American weapons are being launched from bases in those countries and striking China, then those countries are de-facto participating in war against China. I wouldn't be opposed to immediate tactical level nuclear strikes on all Japanese power infrastructure, ports, airports, water treatment plants, reservoirs, telecoms, etc. Maybe even an immediate EMP preceding these attacks. In addition to strikes on their military assets.
 

PLAwatcher12

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If American weapons are being launched from bases in those countries and striking China, then those countries are de-facto participating in war against China. I wouldn't be opposed to immediate tactical level nuclear strikes on all Japanese power infrastructure, ports, airports, water treatment plants, reservoirs, telecoms, etc. Maybe even an immediate EMP preceding these attacks. In addition to strikes on their military assets.
China would never do that massive amount of war crimes, especially since China has a no first use policy for nukes. China would strike US military bases in those countries though but not invade those bases to take it over what would result if not already happening, Japanese involvement
 

Moonscape

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If American weapons are being launched from bases in those countries and striking China, then those countries are de-facto participating in war against China. I wouldn't be opposed to immediate tactical level nuclear strikes on all Japanese power infrastructure, ports, airports, water treatment plants, reservoirs, telecoms, etc. Maybe even an immediate EMP preceding these attacks. In addition to strikes on their military assets.
凡用兵之法,全國爲上;破國次之;全軍爲上,破軍次之;全旅爲上,破旅次之;全卒爲上,破卒次之;全伍爲上,破伍次之。
In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.

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非利不動,非得不用,非危不戰。... 怒可以復喜,慍可以復悅,亡國不可以復存,死者不可以復生。
Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical. ... Anger may in time change to gladness; vexation may be succeeded by content. But a kingdom that has once been destroyed can never come again into being; nor can the dead ever be brought back to life.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Thecore

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凡用兵之法,全國爲上;破國次之;全軍爲上,破軍次之;全旅爲上,破旅次之;全卒爲上,破卒次之;全伍爲上,破伍次之。
  • In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.
Yet the Americans shocked and awed Baghdad into submission and firebombed Tokyo and of course nuked them twice. They then proceeded to occupy them all the way up until now. Sometimes it's not a bad idea to watch and learn from your enemy instead of solely relying on ancient pearls of wisdom which may not be applicable for every single situation, scope and era.
 

iewgnem

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If the air bases aren’t destroyed they will if they are they might still have air superiority if carriers are near it

most probably will be destroyed but that’s not my point my point is your thinking after Taiwan, China will invade a country to take over US bases probably Japan, just so they can take Guam, they don’t need to take Guam to render the US ineffective in the first island chain
Who said China just want to make US ineffective in the 1IC?
Once US declares war on China, what China wants isn't up to US to decide.
 

tamsen_ikard

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Who said China just want to make US ineffective in the 1IC?
Once US declares war on China, what China wants isn't up to US to decide.
I feel like China has an Iran disease. They keep wanting to compromise, they keep want to just be at peace when your enemy wants to utterly murder you. What US has been doing to China with the export controls is literally economic murder and China hasn't done anything proportional. This peace disease will surprise China again and again in this fight against US empire.
 
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