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supersnoop

Colonel
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Fighting directly would be the last resort anyways. If the rumors of Volt Typhoon and Salt Typhoon are real, China can simply threaten to completely shut down all US civilian infrastructure (electrical, internet, communications, etc.) via cyber

There is no question it is real. The question is just how powerful and disruptive a real attack would be.

We saw this preview version when Pelosi visited:
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This was just silly stuff basically, not even close to the real "hammer".

We see Israel doing this right now:
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manqiangrexue

Brigadier
@PLAwatcher12
"Other insane people agreeing if you doesn’t make you reasonable many people agreed with the Nazis doesn’t make them reasonable."
Yeah? Nobody agreeing with you doesn't make you reasonable, does it?

"And if someone was trying to kill me I have self defense to fight back."
That's what Iran is doing and it is finally fighting back in the same way that the killer is fighting in. Unfair? Now Iran's wrong to defend itself using the same actions as its assailant? Must limit just its own actions to Disney morals when its enemy is trying everything to kill Iran, you say?

"Commiting genocide isn’t self defense"
You can't commit genocide on 1 person. It's a fight to the death; that's it. Die or get killed.

And what's this talk about genocide? You made it all up. Israel is the only country committing genocide. Iran is simply bombing an Israeli hospital in response to its own hospital being bombed except the Israeli one has (or doesn't have, doesn't matter) a military command post hiding under it.

"and no they wouldn’t have because they weren’t crazy good thing your not a word leader"
This beating is taking a toll on your English LOL As Chris Tucker famously said, "Don't nobody understand the words that are commin; outta yo mouth!"

"and no fair person thinks people deserve to die because of the actions of their government or the words they say."
That's your opinion. We have all these good fair people here who say that people who cheer, support, and were actively drafted into a military that commits genocide deserve all that can be inflicted onto them in return and more.
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
Are we going to wait for another Ukraine scenario to happen before they should react? Much more resources will need to be diverted to counter Middle East 2.0 instead of propping up Iran with minimal resources.

So you think it would have been better for Russia to fight NATO expansion in the Balkans instead? How would that have turned out for the Russians?

And how is this any better than sending some material aid (not direct military) to Iran and keeping them alive? Instead of letting Iran spend their money to keep foreign sponsored terrorists at bay. You propose that it should be China and Russia who spends billions to keep those terrorists contained.

How much resources did Iran and Russia pour into Syria? How did that investment turn out?

The fundamental problem with Iran isn’t the lack of weapons or money, it’s that their entire society is compromised with western worshipping brain rot or religious fundamentalism; saddled with unwise leaders; and it’s institutions riddled with corruption, traitors and spies. The foundation is rotten, no amount of scaffolding will mitigate that deficiency.

China already went out if its way to build them a real viable alternative path with peace with Saudi Arabia, and massive Chinese investment and trade as a core path of BRI. What did Iran do with all that generosity? They tried to trade it for western favours and jumped in bed with India to counter balance China. Indian spies fucking them over time for Mossad is just Karma. Had they taken China’s offer, they could have built up their economy and had ample funds to fully modernise their military by now.

Now it’s far too late, even if China was minded to send them weapons, it would take them months if not years to reach combat capability with them. That’s why the Iranians are dreaming of Chinese troops coming to fight and die to dig them out of the hole they voluntarily jumped into, as anything short of that won’t be enough.

The best they can hope for now is to purge the weak and traitors within and get real results on the battlefield to prove that they can survive this and are worth helping. Otherwise they need their own century of humiliation to fully come to terms with how far they have fallen and how hard they need to work to redeem themselves, as the Chinese has to.
 

Maikeru

Major
Registered Member
Well this isn't sending horses and guys in scalemail from 中原 to 西域, though. You're talking transporting missiles the size of the Pantheon columns, TELs, radars, command modules... the whole shebang, through the Karakoram into Hamalayan Pakistan. How are you gonna accomplish that?

When the US was in Afghanistan, they didn't have Patriot missiles or THAADs at Outpost Keating or Camp Bastion either.

What they had was this -

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That is the OG British Rapier (not even Field Standard C), last seen failing dismally to shoot down Argentine A4s over San Carlos Water in 1982 (TBF the long sea voyage played havoc with their gyroscopes).
 

W20

Junior Member
Registered Member
"They hate you. They have contempt for you"

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Exactly

That is the essence of the original mind-software, dating back to the Persian imperial era.

Every ruling class can despise the plebs to a greater or lesser extent, but in this case, the Biblical Mind-Software is of a classist radicalism that even surpasses that of India.

Flavius Josephus tells us of "an army of slaves" who fought against the Romans and the Sadducean oligarchy of the city-Temple.

In the first major agrarian riot after the death of Herod "the Great," the yehudim of Galilea, Perea, and Idumea, and even some yehudim from Judea itself, took up arms "out of animosity toward the yehudim" (Flavius Josephus)

Americans are feeling the effects of the Judeo-Christian Biblical Mind-Software whose first version was to enslave the Hebrews.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
They know that they're somewhere down on the list to overthrow after Iran.
What? How? China isn't going to just become a spectator on that possible conflict because N.Korea is literally right next door!! Besides, if any of the current leadership in China is just going to allow the slaughter and mayhem to happen against it's ONLY DEFENSE TREATY country, then China is going to be surrounded from all sides.
 

FriedButter

Brigadier
Registered Member
So you think it would have been better for Russia to fight NATO expansion in the Balkans instead? How would that have turned out for the Russians?

How much resources did Iran and Russia pour into Syria? How did that investment turn out?

Russia militarily intervened. I am talking about material resources as the last few posts. Something that apparently some people here are grasping at the idea of sending drone components, chips, industrial chemicals, would somehow collapse the Chinese economy into a super black hole.
 
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