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Take a look at the list, the whole western asia and north africa are in there. China has also individually condemned Israeli attack on Iran in the UN. Wang Yi told Israeli FM in person that Israeli's attack on Iran is unacceptable. SCO as a wholes has condemed Israel. This statement is just another one from the muslim world. Not to downplay Pakistan's achievement in organizing this meeting, but Pakistan is very safe among these many countries. I also think that Pakistan as a SCO member is doing this on behalf of SCO to rally Muslim world. Pakistan isn't "stupid" as you think. I see this Pakistani move will boost SCO's credibility and attract more countries from west asia and north africa.
I think you are still used to the world order of western dominance where their threat means a lot. But with Saudi, UAE's money and oil, China's weapon and industry who give a fuck of what the west sanction? If the west doesn't provide balance and safty to Pakistan vs. India, why should Pakistan care about the west?
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Would not count on those two tbh, they are still under Western thumb as it is currently evident by their docile stance towards Israel.
China can bail out Pakistan economically pretty easily, while militarily they are more formidable than Iran. For one, they have a functioning air force that bloodied Jai Hinds multiple times already, meanwhile Iran seemingly has no air force at all. Plus, they have the ultimate deterrent - nukes.
Russia should be able to deliver all of them in one year if there is such an order. but Pilot training for 4G++ takes 4 years and Russians have done some work to reduce it to 2.5 years but i doubt it can apply to new buyers. Russia try to help Iran improve its products by buying military stuff from Iran. Russia saved this bankrupt system for too long. but Iran is too illogical to even understand basics. Iran lacks Soft Power of Arabian Arabs so it cannot talk about Place like Crimea using International Law when Russia want to break this law because it is European. This Crimea separation from Ukraine peacefully is Russian muslims biggest achievement and they literally built it to modern standard at quickest pace and they want to publicly associate with it.
All this info will not be in the the article but it is presented in unfriendly way showing shortcomings of Iran.
supercat
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According to Nature Index 2025, about half of the top 50 academic institutions in the world is in China, including the number 1: Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS).
Why Iran doesn't have a proper Air Force and air defense systems:
The Trump regime will enter the war after the Mossad carriers out some false-flag attack.
Israel confirms that Haifa suffered serious damages.
Such gaslighting and BS from the Reuters and WSJ prove that Israel is not doing well.
Wow, is this true?
Engineer
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Pakistan alone isn't in a position to do so, but who says Pakistan is acting alone?
Pakistan has practical training with Chinese doctrine, uses Chinese weapons, flies Chinese platforms that can link with Chinese ISR network, that are bought partially using Saudi's money. If both China and Saudi Arabia agreed to intervene, doing so through Pakistan would make the most sense.
To be honest, even if Iran has S-400, HQ-9 or even J-10, what difference does it make when Mossad could destroy them on the ground with Spike ATGM? The fact that Russia readily provide S-400 systems to India, yet is hesitant to deliver even S-300 to Iran tell volumes. Recall that in 2024, the 3 S-300 Russia did provide to Iran were destroyed by Israel after internal software attack rendered them useless.
Also, hasn't Iran shown a multitude of AD systems on parades? What happened to their Raad, Bavar 373, Arman, Sayyad, Zubin air defense systems? It's evident that while Russia/China were hesitant with providing Iran with AD systems, they were quite open with providing Iran with underlying technological know-how.