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iBBz said:
I don't think China is a great power. They do nothing to prove they are. A great power acts with impunity, without hesitation, and without any regard for any law. China won't even dare take Taiwan that's like less than 200km away and is legally theirs. No great power allows itself to be surrounded on it's own border while spinning the "Do nothing and win air bender waiting around Sun Tzu focused chi" vinyl. We are being told to believe the US will just pack their bags and go home by themselves. It is a ridiculous construct.
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Sounds like the typical murican talking point. Trying to goad China into abandoning what's working for them so far to score some cheap ego points.

The Han dynasty is a pussy and not a real power! They are letting the Xiongnu walk all over them with these agreements! They should attack them now instead of building up stuff behind the scenes and making sure they can crush them when the time comes!

Well ok they're not a great power. But they would rather be a winner at the end than being called a "great power".
 
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iBBz said:
I don't think China is a great power. They do nothing to prove they are. A great power acts with impunity, without hesitation, and without any regard for any law. China won't even dare take Taiwan that's like less than 200km away and is legally theirs. No great power allows itself to be surrounded on it's own border while spinning the "Do nothing and win air bender waiting around Sun Tzu focused chi" vinyl. We are being told to believe the US will just pack their bags and go home by themselves. It is a ridiculous construct.
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man that is a terrible take. the last time someone tried to do that they got boggled down in a decade of counterinsurgency operations and are suffering the consequences of that in many ways today. surely China is not so stupid to make that mistake.
 
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iBBz said:
I don't think China is a great power. They do nothing to prove they are. A great power acts with impunity, without hesitation, and without any regard for any law. China won't even dare take Taiwan that's like less than 200km away and is legally theirs. No great power allows itself to be surrounded on it's own border while spinning the "Do nothing and win air bender waiting around Sun Tzu focused chi" vinyl. We are being told to believe the US will just pack their bags and go home by themselves. It is a ridiculous construct.
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imo, militarily, the most China will do is to take back taiwan some time in the future. It will come before 2050. they won't involve themselves militarily on another country.

even defense sales to iran is very limited. iran recently had bought raw material for building ballistic missiles from china.

in other words, China wants to pursue to be an economic superpower, not a hegemonic superpower.
 
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iBBz said:
I don't think China is a great power. They do nothing to prove they are. A great power acts with impunity, without hesitation, and without any regard for any law. China won't even dare take Taiwan that's like less than 200km away and is legally theirs. No great power allows itself to be surrounded on it's own border while spinning the "Do nothing and win air bender waiting around Sun Tzu focused chi" vinyl. We are being told to believe the US will just pack their bags and go home by themselves. It is a ridiculous construct.
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No, that is a hegemonic power. China is a rising power. When rising powers act like hegemonic powers, they greatly jeopardize their future. China is doing everything it should be as a rising power, which is to keep as low a profile for as long as possible until it emerges at a point too late for the standing hegemon to contend with.
 
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iBBz said:
I don't think China is a great power. They do nothing to prove they are. A great power acts with impunity, without hesitation, and without any regard for any law. China won't even dare take Taiwan that's like less than 200km away and is legally theirs. No great power allows itself to be surrounded on it's own border while spinning the "Do nothing and win air bender waiting around Sun Tzu focused chi" vinyl. We are being told to believe the US will just pack their bags and go home by themselves. It is a ridiculous construct.
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Every "great power" that acted recklessly, without regard to blowback or sustainability ended up being "not a great power".
Operation Sindoor was an act of recklessness, did that strengthen India's hand or weaken it?
 
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iBBz said:
I don't think China is a great power. They do nothing to prove they are. A great power acts with impunity, without hesitation, and without any regard for any law. China won't even dare take Taiwan that's like less than 200km away and is legally theirs. No great power allows itself to be surrounded on it's own border while spinning the "Do nothing and win air bender waiting around Sun Tzu focused chi" vinyl. We are being told to believe the US will just pack their bags and go home by themselves. It is a ridiculous construct.
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So why hasn't US recognized Taiwan as independent if China is so weak?
 
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