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dingyibvs

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Honestly after NATO d*ck try to reach Asian Pacific i think now good time to sell tons of weapons for Russian. You know money from selling weapons still is money. See how much NATO and EU seethe is part of fun, beside getting a lot money of course.

That's not a great strategy. China's near term diplomatic goal should be to to reinforce the split between the US and its allies. They don't need to like China, they just need to move closer to China and farther from the US. To that end, ideally China would try to convince them they have their back while simultaneously trying to convince the US and it's got its hands full taking on America. This would make both the US and its allies think they have a stronger hand, thus making it less likely for them to come to an agreement.

Trump needs to have a sanguine assessment of the hand he's got, and realize that he needs to lose some to win some. The US IMO should roll back the aggressive stance against its allies, including especially the threats of invasion, and find a face-saving compromise so it can focus on China and its periphery.

I would add Panama to the folded
I would also add Taiwan to folded

ROK change into the folded category, due to the shipbuilding co-op and shipbuilding offers

I would watch public sentiment more then government/politician interactions, because if the concession are too heavy then whoever is in control of the government may soon find themselves out of the government one way or another.

ROK has been angling for the shipbuilding deal well before the tariff war, it's the American shipyards' wrath they have to contend with. Rather than folding I think they're trying to take advantage of the situation and trying to get a better deal for themselves.
 

Mt1701d

Junior Member
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ROK has been angling for the shipbuilding deal well before the tariff war, it's the American shipyards' wrath they have to contend with. Rather than folding I think they're trying to take advantage of the situation and trying to get a better deal for themselves.
Ah… I see then I was lagging in my info. Did the shipbuilding discussion before tariff only include recently signed shipyard-to-shipyard MOU about working together etc or did it also include the potential for Korean shipyards to build warships for the USN? There was an article I saw recently about ROK shipyards wanting to build up to 5 warships for USN a year.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General

The problem with Westerners is they thought they can and would be in control of literally everything... I say it all the time but this tells you how much control the West wants to the point where you have to question the freedom they claim they champion and believe. This video proves the saying hindsight if 20/20. All it is a bunch of would've, could've, should'ves. The West thought they had the power to control these things hence why they bring it up because if they got it right the first time, it would've turned into a different outcome to their advantage. That suggests they believe they can control these things. They can't control human nature. They wrap what human beings want in general around mechanisms where they're in control.

Look at innovation. The West on a whole believes this is a genetic trait by race. So why are they telling Chinese how to invent things when they believe they never can because of race? It's a waste of time. Why do it? It's because they're trying to appeal to Chinese wanting to invent things on their own because the West touts their inventions to show how great they are as a people and culture. They don't want Chinese inventing things because that would mean they only did things the West hasn't thus the West isn't unique. Being superior to everyone else is being unique. The West's fear of Chinese technological prowess today proves it so why would they give away the secret sauce on how to invent things? Because they aren't giving away the secret sauce. It's a trick and a lie. What's the secret sauce they claim leads to innovation? Political freedom. The only way the West can influence and therefore control China is if they have unrestricted access to the Chinese people and it has nothing to with being able to invent things. It's about them wanting influence without interference so they can be in control.

The WTO isn't about fairness in world trade. It's about the West being in control of world trade under the guise of fairness. China just played their own game against them. They claim China uses slave labor. Well they exploited that slave labor so they can make more money. They're only complaining now because China was smart enough to turn it to their own advantage. Look at JD Vance's own comments on globalization. The West were suppose to be the masters and countries like China were at the bottom and suppose to stay at the bottom making the West rich. Did the West sell it like that to get to world to join the WTO? No they lied about it to trick the world into a system where the West would only get rich and everyone else stayed poor. Now they're upset because it didn't go their way.
 

iewgnem

Senior Member
Registered Member
The mental process is fascinating to watch
If President Trump were to pause the China tariffs for 90 days and reduce them temporarily to 10%, he would achieve the same objective in causing US businesses to relocate their supply chains from China without the disruption and risk to these businesses in the short term, and he would have time to negotiate a deal with China.
A pause is not a sign of weakness. It is a tactic to create leverage in a negotiation.
 
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