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pmc

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Nobody plans trench-style war on purpose. If your plan A was to decapitate Zelensky and force a regime change in your favor, and your Plan B was a trench-style war that is bleeding both sides dry, then no, I would say that Plan B is a spectacular failure compared to plan A.
yes. this is the plan and even now they talk bad about Europe. he came from Israel recently.
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Bennett: Putin promised me not to kill Zelensky​


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Meeting with Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar and President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia Alexander Boroda​

Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar
Today, thank God, the Jewish community in Russia is making incredibly great strides, much is being built, and new youth programmes are becoming available. You can see people drawn to it. When we look at what is happening in Europe with its anti-Semitism, degradation, and liberalism, it is all because they do not have these values.
 

Iron Man

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Whether they sit weeks or months they parked junk there to attract the fire and Just the landing operations helicopters were more than 200 on first day. I am not even counting the attack chopper and fighter aircraft those numbers are classified. but what i read at time from Arabic media. it was the largest airpower demonstration for longest duration that they have seen in one place.
it does not take much to search it on youtube just recent stuff.
This is not even remotely a fruitful hypothetical to entertain, TBH. You can believe Russia parked their equipment on the road to Kiev to get destroyed if you want, and I can believe something else. LOL
 

Iron Man

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Zelensky is about to be replaced very soon as a part of the ongoing settlement process with Trump's govt. He can either peacefully retire somewhere with some money that he stole or be purged or even executed. Nazi leaders will stand trial and nazism will be banned. UKR will face massive demilitarization and demoralization. Or else why do you think Putin is even willing to talk to Trump now that he has such an upper hand? If Trump/US ever want to recoup the money that they wasted there so far and save some face, they will have to agree with all of this. It's moving in that direction. All this 'new elections' in Ukraine business is about that.
He may or may not get replaced but it sure as shit wasn't part of any "Plan B". You again have the benefit of hindsight, where the war is not going Zelensky's way and where a resurgent Trump wants to bargain with Putin over Ukraine's ashes without Zelensky even in the picture. This is not something you or anyone else could have predicted as they formulated a Plan B after Plan A went to hell.

Not beforehand, but by 2023 it should have become obvious to Putin how much it was beneficial once the data started coming in, like economic and industrial indicators, the external situation in the West, etc. Or else they would have used their full might to accelerate pace or change something else. If they were 'losing' why would they do the same thing for 2 years?
Who said they were losing? Russia sure as hell wasn't winning until recently though. These two are not mutually exclusive.
 

pmc

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This is not even remotely a fruitful hypothetical to entertain, TBH. You can believe Russia parked their equipment on the road to Kiev to get destroyed if you want, and I can believe something else. LOL
yes. when there is unlimited wealth old stuff can be disposed off and there is no evidence any thing of substance destroyed because Russian airforce was round the clock bombing them.
This unknown expert is what they revealing they can do the decapitation strike anytime.
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March 20, 2022 - 06:49 Abu Dhabi time
Experts told Sky News Arabia that Russia's use of these missiles aims to send messages to the West that it is capable of
resolving the battle in Ukraine at any time


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system is named after the Macedonian commander Alexander the Great, who is considered one of the greatest military generals in history. Legend has it that he wore a helmet with two horns, and the system has two missiles.
 

coolgod

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I don't see why they wouldn't last. Merkel era Germany were basically CDU/SPD coalitions.
I think you need to re-evaluate Merkel's legacy. She bares great responsibility for present day Europe's woes. If she didn't open the flood gates for refugees, Europe would be totally different today. If she actually tried to enforce the Minsk agreements, then the tragic war in Ukraine might have never happened. Chinese people speak highly of her cause Germany then got along with China well, that's when Chinese people were Germany's biggest customer. In retrospect, other German leaders would have gotten along with China well cause they know which side of the bread is buttered.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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And then what happened? BTW, if MacArthur had his itchy radioactive trigger fingers unrestrained by Truman, we wouldn't even be talking about any Chinese victory in the Korean War.
Why didn't he? Was he weak like Putin that he was losing and had to resort to nukes?
They absolutely had tanks and aircraft, so yes, you missed it: "By 2001, Pakistan was providing the Taliban regime in Kabul with hundreds of advisers and experts to run its tanks, aircraft and artillery, thousands of Pakistani Pashtuns to man its infantry and small units of its Special Services Group commandoes to help in combat with the Northern Alliance."

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A single throwaway sentence doesn't prove much. Let me help you with a very simple ORBAT:

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By the end of the 1990s, the
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maintained five supersonic
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and 10
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fighter-bombers.
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They also held six
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helicopters, five Mi-35s, five L-39Cs, six An-12s, 25 An-26s, a dozen An-24/32s, an IL-18, and a Yakovlev.
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Let me know if you missed anything else.

I love how you love to perseverate on Operation Linebacker as a "microcosm" of the air war, as if one single engagement and some magical handwaving can somehow extrapolate it to the entire air war over the course of the Vietnam War. But yeah sure, you go on with your bad self, own that linebacking battle, and just go ahead and ignore the inconvenient details like overall air-to-air combat ratios.
You can also look at Linebacker II which went even worse for the US which had an abysmal 6 to 27 kill ratio by their own numbers.

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And why restrict it to air to air? If you go by total aircraft loss ratios, 10k vs. 100 isn't a good look no matter how you slice it.
Oh come on, look at you spindoctoring with semantics. That's about as hilariously ridiculous as saying "no, No, NO! I stuck you with a shiv, NOT a knife. Get it straight!" LOL, as if the VC were almost like a different species of human, just so you can spin some nonsensical argument out of an irrelevant distinction.
How is it semantics? It's a huge difference - it is basically what Russia was doing in Donbass in 2014-2022, vs what Russia did in 2022 onwards. Any intellectualy honest person would understand that Russian actions in 2014-2022 are different than Russian actions post 2022.

PAVN wasn't fighting in North Vietnam on its own territory as an insurgency. It was fighting conventionally at the North-South border and projecting power into South Vietnam with gray zone warfare. This is very important because an insurgency relies on local support and logistics. South Vietnam was not the territory of North Vietnam - it was a sovereign state governed by the Republic of Vietnam.

The Taliban was fighting in its own territory as an insurgency. Completely incomparable situation.
As I said, Vietnam involved both conventional force-on-force AND insurgency. Not sure how you missed that, but I did say it actually TWICE in my last post.
You also said something else:

The US overwhelmingly tends to win straight up force-on-force engagements, while suffering a death by a thousand cuts on the receiving end of an insurgency-style war.
Yet it lost the Battle of Khe Sanh, a 40k on 40k conventional battle, with more casualties (2.5-3.5k KIA vs. 2.4k KIA) and losing Khe Sanh Combat Base. Losing more soldiers + losing territory + losing stated objectives is an unambiguous loss.

It wasn't because they didn't care about it either, they tried to retake Khe Sahn 5 years later in Operation Dewey Canyon II. The end result: total collapse of their offensive and the US-South Vietnamese forces losing in a 1:5 KIA ratio.

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I must keep pointing this out to you since you keep trying to reduce Vietnam to a counterinsurgency war and even proclaimed here that it was the insurgency that wore the US down as you wrote here:
Taliban went into hiding and started striking at the US with (mostly) guerilla-style tactics, interspersed with rare force on force engagements, which it overwhelmingly lost; a very similar situation to Vietnam.
The North Vietnamese military did not 'go into hiding' and fight 'rare force on force engagements, which it overwhelmingly lost' if it shot down 10k planes while losing around 100 and fought multiple 10k+ on 10k+ conventional battles with 1:1 or better KIA ratios without losing territory.
 
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