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manqiangrexue

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This China hating Lindy Li bitch jumped from the democrats campaign to MAGA side right after Trump won. Americans found videos of her speaking Chinese and accused her of being a CCP spy :D
CCP be like, "Oh shit, that's bad; she fucked up on screen! Commence Code red, I repeat code red Agent Extraction Protocol! Hurry, we have no time; her mouth is falling down the stairs right now!"
 

Viktorr

Just Hatched
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I don't know if you're trolling but this is laughable. White settlers came to my continent and forcefully settled, they used their superior tech to subdue natives. Aren't the Ukrainians the natives in those lands? If Ukrainians moved to Russia and tried to colonize Russia and Russia fought back then your point would be valid. This is why reasonable people cheer the Soviet Union fighting and defeating the Nazis.

When the Europeans decided to carve up the continent, they created a bunch of artificial colonial constructs that put many ethnic groups together that had no business being together and used artificial boundaries to separate brothers. In South West Nigeria, you have the Yoruba who have far more in common with their Yoruba brothers (and other similar groups) in neighboring Benin Republic than they do with Igbos, who are supposed to be their countrymen. Igbos have more in common with groups in southwest Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea than they do with Hausa, Fulani, Tiv, Urhobo, etc who they are supposed to share a country with. Benin Yorubas move to Nigeria and settle and Nigerian Yorubas do the same willingly. However, if the current President of Nigeria, Bola Tinubu, a Yoruba man, wakes up tomorrow and decides to roll tanks into Benin (which they could easily do as Nigeria has, by far, the most powerful military in West Africa) to unite Yorubas under the same country, the Beninese Yoruba would fight like hell and rightfully so.

Two groups may be historically linked but they've lived long enough in two different countries that you've got to be mad to want to forcefully subdue people who have enjoyed sovereignty for a long period of time. Russia needs to read the writing on the wall, focus on building itself and building good relations with its neighbors.
I think you should take a trip to Crimea or Donbass and speak to the "natives". They can fill you in on a few details.
 

iewgnem

Junior Member
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That empire is not there and the era of empires is dead. The world is multilateral (not multipolar) now. There's no doubt the Russians and Americans will try but they'll find out the costs of trying to create an empire isn't worth the benefits.
Multipolarity is an observed state, not created by will.
No one side has interest nor ability to help others become other poles, and with non-linear and non-equal technological and industrial growth, multiplolarity is really just a transitory state between two unipolar world.

At end of the day the real choices are do you support unipolarity under evil, or unipolarity under good. The world is moving toward unipolarity under good, but not entirely, because good does not mean forgiveness.
 

Africablack

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Compare Ukraine to Gaza and tell me Ukraine "resisted"
Do you see goons roaming the street abducting Palestinians to resist?
That's the difference between war of liberating your own people under NATO occupation, vs war of imperial expansion where locals aren't necessary.

Israel's claim to Palestine is the exact same nature as NATO claim to Ukraine, they're both the exact same group of Europeans going to a new land, enslaving the locals and claiming it as their own. Russia and Palestine are both fighting the same people, Russia is just a lot more powerful.
I'm against NATO expansion and Russia has a right to feel aggrieved. What does invading Ukraine do except creating a hostile neighbor and proving the west's point that Russia is an aggressor? Just look at how China has played the game; despite the provocations coming from the west, it hasn't fallen for the bait and has made the west look silly. China has focused on itself, increased its economic and military strength and has exercised patience. It has concluded that if it created deep economic relationships with countries in its periphery they will be less willing to join the western crusade to confront China despite how they may feel about it. The Russian leadership don't want to learn lesson and are stuck with Soviet mentality.
 

FriedButter

Colonel
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You seem to have preconceived notions about what Russia is doing.

Ignoring the existential core redlines of the other side is exactly how people fumble into war. Potentially nuclear war. The Russians have said an aligned Ukraine has been a redline for decades and wants them to stay neutral. NATO and the West ignores that, discarded their promises, and remains extremely hostile even after the USSR ended. Russia offered reconciliation with the West after the USSR. They said no and ignored it. This entire thing was predictable.
 

Africablack

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I think you should take a trip to Crimea or Donbass and speak to the "natives". They can fill you in on a few details.
The Donbass and Crimea are different. If Russia would have stopped there I wouldn't be critical of them. When it happened in 2014 I completely understood and I sided with them. What I criticize is their invasion of the whole country which I view as unnecessary. At that point, Ukraine couldn't join NATO so what was the point of the February 2022 invasion?
 

iewgnem

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I'm against NATO expansion and Russia has a right to feel aggrieved. What does invading Ukraine do except creating a hostile neighbor and proving the west's point that Russia is an aggressor? Just look at how China has played the game; despite the provocations coming from the west, it hasn't fallen for the bait and has made the west look silly. China has focused on itself, increased its economic and military strength and has exercised patience. It has concluded that if it created deep economic relationships with countries in its periphery they will be less willing to join the western crusade to confront China despite how they may feel about it. The Russian leadership don't want to learn lesson and are stuck with Soviet mentality.
The west's point died with USAID.
China does not care what they make the west "look like", China simply believes in winning before you fight, which, if you know Chinese history, never meant sitting back forever. History is full of barbarian tribes who mistaked China's passivity for pacifism, they're all dead.

Russia has as much right to liberate their land from European invaders as Palestinians has in liberating Palestine from the exactly same group of European invaders, the timing and method of their actions is their own prerogative and not for China to decide, but China can and will support both.
 

Serb

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I'm against NATO expansion and Russia has a right to feel aggrieved. What does invading Ukraine do except creating a hostile neighbor and proving the west's point that Russia is an aggressor? Just look at how China has played the game; despite the provocations coming from the west, it hasn't fallen for the bait and has made the west look silly. China has focused on itself, increased its economic and military strength and has exercised patience. It has concluded that if it created deep economic relationships with countries in its periphery they will be less willing to join the western crusade to confront China despite how they may feel about it. The Russian leadership don't want to learn lesson and are stuck with Soviet mentality.
So in this case, it’s like some small Nazi extremist groups from western Ukraine have been terrorizing the east for years, all with the backing of NATO sponsors.

These are basically two different nations at this point. Then finally, Russia gets strong enough to step in and protect its own people from oppression, and suddenly, everyone freaks out. And it’s not just the oppressed people in Ukraine, tons of people worldwide benefited from Russia pushing back and breaking the West’s grip.

This isn’t about expansion, Russia already has a ridiculous amount of resources. It’s about protecting their own people and securing their borders. Now, compare that to Africa, where there are dozens of pointless armed conflicts every year, wars, coups, insurgencies, militias, all fighting over resources or revenge.

Since 1950, over 200 conflicts, millions of casualties, endless warlords, and refugees. And honestly, considering the state of things, it’s probably a good thing they’re busy fighting each other. If they were actually united and had better tech, their expansion would make European colonialism look like a joke.
 

4Runner

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Video abt Stephen Roach, former morgan stanley chief economist, talking abt China.
Stephen Roach zigzagged a lot in the past 10 years or so. Early on he got some valuable help from Zhu Rong Ji when he was Morgan Stanley Asia Chairman. But since Xi came to power and particularly during Biden admin, he turned very negative against almost anything Xi admin has been doing. Now I guess he does not like Trump 2.0 and changes his mind again ...
 
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