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coolgod

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Nah man, Canadians are still busy trying to find evidence of Chinese interference. The most despised lady in Canadian politics (kind of like Hillary) has to blame China for losing the upcoming leadership race.

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Freeland targeted by 'malicious' WeChat campaign with alleged ties to China: Threat task force​

SITE estimates up to 3 million WeChat users saw campaign globally​



They are on to me, maybe I can call dibs at the top bunk in the internment camps.
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Mark Carney meets Xi as China woos the West​


President holds talks with US bosses as Beijing scrambles to shore up economy
Xi Jinping met with former Bank of England governor Mark Carney on Wednesday as part of a charm offensive with Western executives.
The Chinese president held talks with North American business leaders in an effort to improve trade ties and attract foreign investment following a marked slowdown in the world’s second-largest economy.
Around 20 chief executives were present at the meeting, including Stephen Schwarzman, boss of private equity firm Blackstone, and Cristiano Amon, the boss of chip manufacturer Qualcomm.
Mr Carney, who is now chair of Bloomberg and asset manager Brookfield, also attended, according to a photo released by state media.
The executives were forced to tear up their schedules after receiving a last-minute invite to meet what was billed as a “top Chinese leader”.
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I forgot about this meeting which occurred last year. I guess Canada is creating the conditions after all by selection a friend of China as its next prime minister.
 

supercat

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Love the fact that DeepSeek was so traumatising to Anglo Zionist supremacists that it has now replaced “Sputnik moment“ as the new lexicon.
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Funny tweet of the day:
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Funny article of the day, from the Economist:

Is Xi Jinping an AI doomer?​

China’s elite is split over artificial intelligence

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luminary

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It's not that they need a Indian face to report. It's that the Chinese messaging style sucks and is ineffective.

Just compare the style of Ben Norton, Richard Wolff, Michael Hudson to CGTN, China Daily and others. The difference is in the messaging itself. There are other major factors.

You see difference in the language and the framing.

Asian reporters vs non Asian reporters
hegemony vs empire
military adventurism / world police vs brutal empire invades nations
ideology vs fascism
Taiwan independence vs separatists
color revolution vs coups, overthrow government
usa confronts China vs usa attacks China
usa discredits China vs usa smears China
usa discourse hegemony vs usa's global propaganda machine - you can even use ex-CIA director quote here.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIADirector (1981)"
usa protects Taiwan vs usa sells weapons to Taiwanese separtists
usa's trade restrictions vs America's tech war on China (this was from WSJ).
usa wants to contain Chna vs America wants to destroy China
will will crush Taiwan independence vs usa wants to use Taiwan as an unsinkable aircraft carrier
misunderstanding vs lying
spreading rumors vs atrocity propaganda
hyping up vs lying
lab leak theory vs anti China propaganda

The Chinese style of reporting is weak and tries to be inoffensive, which is useless. Because it's so inoffensive, the reporting rarely provides clarity or wins people over. I never watch the Chinese news and even get the impression that America is even attacking China. I keep seeing soft and/or insane terms like restriction, contain, confront (people confront bullies. China is not a bully), etc.

America is trying to destroy China with everything outside of a hot war and Chinese media presents this as "We are not a threat. Why don't you believe us. Please correct your wrong actions.". Useless.

The framing and wording is almost always wrong and self defeating. This is always related to their lack of skill.

Instead of pleading innocence which makes you sound guilty (mostly because of poor execution). An innocent person would usually lash out for being framed up with Western lies.

Try attacking the accuser's total lack of credibility instead. For example, "The Western butchers of Muslims pretends to care about Muslims in Xinjiang."

When China tries to debunk Uyghur genocide it rambles on about minor points like the number of temples built and showing dancing on the streets. Who cares. Start by stating the population has tripled. And Chinese media should focus on comparisons eg "Here's an actual genocide supported by the West who claims they love Muslims in China." Show the crimes against humanity they committed against Palestinians in Gaza. Use emotional videos and photos.

One more point about the futility of being inoffensive. Emotions are the most important thing to sway. Pictures and videos are the best tool to sway emotions. That's why Western war criminals hire paid actors to cry on camera in their fake testimonies.

from Empire of Pictures - Global Media and the 1960s by Sönke Kunkel (2015)

This is what your enemy fears - skillful use of content to sway emotions against them.

Most accusations by the West are best replied by a side by side comparison and include some damning quotes from famous Americans like Jimmy Carter.

Carter then referred to the US as “the most warlike nation in the history of the world,” a result, he said, of the US forcing other countries to “adopt our American principles.”

“Since 1979, do you know how many times China has been at war with anybody?” Carter asked. “None, and we have stayed at war.”

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The Xinjiang hoax should have been the easiest thing to debunk ever. The primary source is a deranged German 'journalist', the NGOs are wallpaper flimsy and don't hold up to basic inspection, and forced labor database has pictures of Andy Lau and Jackie Chan in it.

Meanwhile Xinjiang itself is a huge hub of tourism for domestic and international travelers, it's a business and transit hub, and every major clothing retailer and automotive company had offices there. China expended a huge political capital to invite the UN inspectors there, Arab world leaders there, and even pushed for them to draft a 37-country letter to praise and defend the security practices there. Not to mention sponsoring journalists and online social media promoting the region.

What is the result? The situation became worse and worse— it went from "reeducation" to "cultural genocide" to "forced labor" to "actual genocide". Many big companies pulled out of Xinjiang, US impose trade war level restrictions with impunity, the UN regularly condemns China for minority repression, and most Muslims believe China is just as anti-Muslim as the USA.

The Xinjiang hoax is now so ubiquitous in the world, every teenager in the West and Middle East knows about it. The US does not need to spend a cent to continue propagating it.

This is literally weakest Western propaganda campaign vs strongest national Chinese effort.

There are many reasons in addition to China's submissive response that caused this. Western Europe and Middle East are completely controlled by Israeli backed media outlets. The Middle East region do not do business or come into contact with Chinese often. Unlike them, China's main business partners in ASEAN, Africa, Americas, know inherently the accusations are false because they know it is not the Chinese way of doing things.

Honestly, the best response for China is to ignore and carry on business as usual. Impose counter sanction if needed but don't need to explain. If China did not bring the UN human rights inspector to Xinjiang or appeared in court for UNCLOS, none of this would have escalated. These humiliations are all self-inflicted.
 
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manqiangrexue

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It's not that they need a Indian face to report. It's that the Chinese messaging style sucks and is ineffective.
Chinese messaging is a ton better than your messaging.
Just compare the style of Ben Norton, Richard Wolff, Michael Hudson to CGTN, China Daily and others. The difference is in the messaging itself. There are other major factors.

You see difference in the language and the framing.

Asian reporters vs non Asian reporters
hegemony vs empire
military adventurism / world police vs brutal empire invades nations
ideology vs fascism
Taiwan independence vs separatists
color revolution vs coups, overthrow government
usa confronts China vs usa attacks China
usa discredits China vs usa smears China
usa discourse hegemony vs usa's global propaganda machine - you can even use ex-CIA director quote here.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIADirector (1981)"
usa protects Taiwan vs usa sells weapons to Taiwanese separtists
usa's trade restrictions vs America's tech war on China (this was from WSJ).
usa wants to contain Chna vs America wants to destroy China
will will crush Taiwan independence vs usa wants to use Taiwan as an unsinkable aircraft carrier
misunderstanding vs lying
spreading rumors vs atrocity propaganda
hyping up vs lying
lab leak theory vs anti China propaganda

The Chinese style of reporting is weak and tries to be inoffensive, which is useless. Because it's so inoffensive, the reporting rarely provides clarity or wins people over. I never watch the Chinese news and even get the impression that America is even attacking China. I keep seeing soft and/or insane terms like restriction, contain, confront (people confront bullies. China is not a bully), etc.
America is trying to destroy China with everything outside of a hot war and Chinese media presents this as "We are not a threat. Why don't you believe us. Please correct your wrong actions.". Useless.

The framing and wording is almost always wrong and self defeating. This is always related to their lack of skill.

Instead of pleading innocence which makes you sound guilty (mostly because of poor execution). An innocent person would usually lash out for being framed up with Western lies.

Try attacking the accuser's total lack of credibility instead. For example, "The Western butchers of Muslims pretends to care about Muslims in Xinjiang."

When China tries to debunk Uyghur genocide it rambles on about minor points like the number of temples built and showing dancing on the streets. Who cares. Start by stating the population has tripled. And Chinese media should focus on comparisons eg "Here's an actual genocide supported by the West who claims they love Muslims in China." Show the crimes against humanity they committed against Palestinians in Gaza. Use emotional videos and photos.

One more point about the futility of being inoffensive. Emotions are the most important thing to sway. Pictures and videos are the best tool to sway emotions. That's why Western war criminals hire paid actors to cry on camera in their fake testimonies.

from Empire of Pictures - Global Media and the 1960s by Sönke Kunkel (2015)

This is what your enemy fears - skillful use of content to sway emotions against them.

Most accusations by the West are best replied by a side by side comparison and include some damning quotes from famous Americans like Jimmy Carter.

Carter then referred to the US as “the most warlike nation in the history of the world,” a result, he said, of the US forcing other countries to “adopt our American principles.”

“Since 1979, do you know how many times China has been at war with anybody?” Carter asked. “None, and we have stayed at war.”

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What a wall of garbage about how you want China to talk like the West LOL

Our culture is one of keeping a low profile, speaking softly while carrying and building a big stick. Your culture is just loudmouthing, which is why the Western style appeals to you. When I hear the Chinese speak vs when the Americans speak the impression I get is that the Chinese person is cultured, skilled and polite while the Westerner is full of hot air and everything he says is an oral fart. In Chinese culture, politicians are held accountable it's actually a potentially career-ending disgrace to say something incorrect or to overpromise in public. In Western culture, that's just Tuesday.

Ask a Chinese designer the purpose of the J-XX and he says we just want something comparable to the Typhoon; American Raptors and Lightning are the most advanced fighters in the world and we'll strive hard to get there but we cannot compete with the best yet. Then when J-20 enters service, American analysts are shocked to find that it is operationally and overall superior to the Raptor and in every way superior to the F-35; it has everything and represents the most balanced and well-designed 5th gen fighter. That is a highly cultured person telling you in veiled words you did not understand that he will cook your goose.

Ask an American designer about their 6th gen fighter and he'll tell you the demonstrator broke every record in history and it's an unrivalled masterpeice that will destroy everything that dares stand against America. Then a couple years later, Shenyang and Chengdu both fly full prototypes. What happened to NGAD? Cancelled. That is an air-headed shitmouth.

When the tech war started, Americans said China is 20 years behind, will suffer economic collapse before getting even close to catching up. Chinese lithography is totally anihilated overnight, no chance of survival. Chinese people... didn't really talk; we just worked. The result? China went 90nm, 45nm, 28nm, 14nm, 7nm, perhaps 5nm now in a handful of years and the momentum just keeps getting faster and faster. America... can't invent shit; basically trying to eat TSMC. And that's how I know Chinese words and Chinese silence are all golden when everything out of a Western mouth is verbal diarrhea.

I can see that and I can fully appreciate the superiority of Chinese skill in communication because I have Chinese culture but you cannot because you worship lowly crude foriegn loudmouth culture.
 
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