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GZDRefugee

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Monolithic vs Microservice
I am not talking about websites, even though the concept of microservice started from web application architecture. I am talking about methodologies in general. I am not boasting here - I am an expert in microservice architecture, in cloud or on-prem. Maybe some people would argue microservice and on-prem are oxymoron. But in my practices, software architecture has become ever more platform agnostic.

So why is above related to DeepSeek vs NIM?
From software architecture standpoint, up until DeepSeek R1 release, all hyperscalers deploy LLM models in a monolithic architecture. History of software engineering has already demonstrated that paradigm is shifting toward microservice architecture from monolithic architecture, particularly loosely-coupled micro-service architecture. There are exceptions in corner cases in various vertical problem domains. But general trend for large-scale cloud-native SaaS is going loosely-coupled micro-service architecture. DeepSeek R1 is the first top-performing tier-one model that can fit in, while other top models that hyperscalers have deployed are all monolithic that can only be deployed in mega data centers with humongous GPGPU farms. Therefore, one of the fundamental impacts DeepSeek brings upon the current AI revolution is that it has started a paradigm shift in deployment architectures. In other words, it is not that DeepSeek is cheap and free that bring so much fear, rather it is innovations in its implementation techniques as well as overall software architecture that has fundamentally change the game of generative AI.

This is just the beginning ......
Do you see compute-as-a-service becoming viable in the near future?
 

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Killing him won’t do jack. The cat is already out of the bag. The milk has been spilt. Humpty-dumpty’s been cracked in two. Not even all the king’s men and horses can put it back together again.
Still ,no low is too low for these assholes-Liang and his team of guys/girls are a national asset and must be protected-this month of win after win would be severly dampened by a horrid news of "something" happening to deepseek's people.
 

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Do you see compute-as-a-service becoming viable in the near future?
Do you have any specifics in mind? I think compute-as-a-service is already here. Public cloud vendors such AWS and Azure are first and foremost vendors of infrastructure-as-a-service, which is inherently built on top of virtual computing, virtual networking and virtual storage. So in a sense, they already offer some form of compute-as-a-service. For example, AWS offers instance types P5*, which can include a few H100 or H200 GPUs. Going forward, they could have some form of whole computer types such as whole rack with Hopper or Blackwell GPUs.
 

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Do you have any specifics in mind? I think compute-as-a-service is already here. Public cloud vendors such AWS and Azure are first and foremost vendors of infrastructure-as-a-service, which is inherently built on top of virtual computing, virtual networking and virtual storage. So in a sense, they already offer some form of compute-as-a-service. For example, AWS offers instance types P5*, which can include a few H100 or H200 GPUs. Going forward, they could have some form of whole computer types such as whole rack with Hopper or Blackwell GPUs.

Not to mention cloud based gaming… It’s harder to find what you can’t do.
 

victoon

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Guys, Rubio knows it now!
Seems like the translator he listend to during the call is from Chinas side, and he/she didn't done his job well. LOL
about that:
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Marco Antonio Rubio was born in
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His parents were Cubans who immigrated to the United States in 1956 during the regime of
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, two and a half years before
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ascended to power after the
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... Neither of Rubio's parents were U.S. citizens at the time of Rubio's birth,
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but they applied for U.S. citizenship and were
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in 1975.

to be fair, Even if he didn't have birth right citizenship, he can still be sec of state.
 

Ringsword

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It looks like if Liang is married his wife better watch out for foreign competition. He has a super fangirl.
Yeah a"fangirl" with an icepick,hand to hand skills,vial of poison and a smuggled 9mil handgun.Just read though that Liang visited his home village and WAS accompanied by security guards-so no stupid naivete there-good.
 
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