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Trump 2.0, based on all that I've seen so far, is serious about Making America Great Again.

We talk a lot here about how the US is a sinking ship and a collapsing empire. But underneath it all, the US still does have a lot going for it as a country: 1) the vast quantities of untapped resources, 2) its status as the sole financial super power, 3) control over most of the world's software platforms, 4) lack of geopolitical rivals on its side of the world, 5) fairly healthy demographics (relative to other first world countries, that is), 6) a system of allies most of whom are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US, delusional as they are.

The trouble with the Democrats is that, for various ideological reasons, they aren't capitalizing on these advantages. Instead, they're actively pretending like the US is still the super power that it was twenty years ago, where it could afford to be the "defender of the free world" and "promote liberalism wherever it exists." Thus the Democrats are more likely to sacrifice US national interests for the sake of global liberalism, resulting in policies like subsidizing NATO, baiting the Russians into a war, writing blank checks to democratic movements, and so on.

Trump seems a lot smarter about this - and I say this as a person who originally bought into the Democratic propaganda that he was just an orange idiot born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He recognizes the fact that the US is sinking, and that the key to preserving US power is fixing the US's internal problems, not defend the "liberal international order." Indeed, he's ready to sacrifice that order, if it means retaining American national power and preeminence.

Towards this end, a lot of what Trump is doing actually makes sense, and are policies I'd have sooner expected from the more pragmatic Chinese leadership. From stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, to ditching the liberal free riders, to cracking down hard on institutional / bureaucratic rot, to tearing down "cancel culture" & radical feminism & social justice scams, to unleashing the potential of the US's vast natural resources. These are all moves designed to improve the US's competitiveness in the decades to come.

I think if you're really watching, understand what's going on, and want the US to fail, then you should be far more concerned about what Trump is doing than what Biden did. Because ultimately, Biden landed the country in a spot where it had no choice but bet it all on AI to save US hegemony, while Trump is putting the US on a stronger foundation for long-term success, with or without AI. I hope Chinese leaders are ready to dance - Trump 2.0 is looking better than ever.
Problem is 5 fold:

1. Trump is an old man and won't see follow through on the deep reforms required even if he seizes absolute power.

2. There is a sizable progressive resistance in the US backed by actual economic interests in DEI, welfarism, low intensity warfare, etc ranging from the MIC to urban slum dwellers to urban middle class college educated whites that will resist him at every turn.

3. He doesn't have the political capital to carry these plans out against resistance.

4. Losing NATO means losing almost all power projection in western Eurasia and Africa.

5. Closing borders means losing hard working human capital that was educated and pre filtered at other countries expense and relying on native US talent, a large chunk of which is poor but educated and extremely ideologically motivated against him, the worst combination for stability.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Are the Indians looking to throw a jab at the Trump Admin.
Oh Please!! India is just jealous that it does not yet have the power, clout, nor influence it can wield to push around its neighbours within its own periphery.

The fact that these numbnuts dare to lecture and criticize countries like Sri Lanka with regards to having made and accepted an FDI with China and implies quite nefariously that it's a debt trap: more like India is just a sour puss.

I can't stand that country's leadership and the many so-called intellectuals that do nothing but perpetuate the Hindutva nonsense of Akhand Bharat. How about f..ng feed your people, protect them from your own scummy and corrupt government and BUSINESSES that prey on their people's gullibility and innocence.

I don't know what source of growth and sectors in the next and current economy where India either is in the lead/forefront or at least in competition to take the lead. Their bread and butter is in I.T. a.k.a. customer service industry and coding that will soon be erased by A.I. And the people that lead them keeps hyping them up on Indian supapowah. If India's current economic and overall mess is not the best indictment of the democratic system I don't know what is. The country is in perpetual motion to become the next failed state.
 

Eventine

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Problem is 5 fold:

1. Trump is an old man and won't see follow through on the deep reforms required even if he seizes absolute power.

2. There is a sizable progressive resistance in the US backed by actual economic interests in DEI, welfarism, low intensity warfare, etc ranging from the MIC to urban slum dwellers to urban middle class college educated whites that will resist him at every turn.

3. He doesn't have the political capital to carry these plans out against resistance.

4. Losing NATO means losing almost all power projection in western Eurasia and Africa.

5. Closing borders means losing hard working human capital that was educated and pre filtered at other countries expense and relying on native US talent, a large chunk of which is poor but educated and extremely ideologically motivated against him, the worst combination for stability.
He does have the benefit of Congress and the Supreme Court mostly being in Republican hands. He just needs to be able to take control of his own party. If he can do that, then 1-3 is less of a problem.

As for NATO, only a country that is strong at home can afford to project power. Global geopolitics is honestly a serious distraction for the US that needs to fix its domestic problems, and Trump recognizes that - he doesn't want to spend time, resources, or money on defending far flung corners of the empire while they free ride off of US protection. Mind you, I don't think Trump will throw it all away, but he'll demand more from the US's vassals.

Finally, I don't think Trump intends to stop immigration into the US, just illegal immigration from the lower classes of other countries. This is one reason why he mostly agreed with Elon's H1b statement, though I think they'll revamp it so that Indians are less able to exploit the loop holes.
 

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He does have the benefit of Congress and the Supreme Court mostly being in Republican hands. He just needs to be able to take control of his own party. If he can do that, then 1-3 is less of a problem.

As for NATO, only a country that is strong at home can afford to project power. Global geopolitics is honestly a serious distraction for the US that needs to fix its domestic problems, and Trump recognizes that - he doesn't want to spend time, resources, or money on defending far flung corners of the empire while they free ride off of US protection. Mind you, I don't think Trump will throw it all away, but he'll demand more from the US's vassals.

Finally, I don't think Trump intends to stop immigration into the US, just illegal immigration from the lower classes of other countries. This is one reason why he mostly agreed with Elon's H1b statement, though I think they'll revamp it so that Indians are less able to exploit the loop holes.

You need the lower classes to work construction and agricultural jobs. Otherwise grocery and housing costs will go through the roof. Not necessarily because there are shortage of actual houses but because the assholes who own property will have an excuse to increase price!
 

tamsen_ikard

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Anyone notice with the unbanning of tik tok by Trump, the liberal Democrats and related media have become the biggest Sinophobes?
I also feel the far-right has slowly become less sino-phobes and more "we need to stop trying to control the whole world and focus at home". A slow but sure shift is happening with liberals becoming pro-War against Russia and more anti-China compared to the far right. The Center right ofcourse is still heavily anti-China. But I feel its the so called pro-liberal Green party, pro-Europe types that are extremely sinophobic now.
 

Arnies

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Problem is 5 fold:

1. Trump is an old man and won't see follow through on the deep reforms required even if he seizes absolute power.

2. There is a sizable progressive resistance in the US backed by actual economic interests in DEI, welfarism, low intensity warfare, etc ranging from the MIC to urban slum dwellers to urban middle class college educated whites that will resist him at every turn.

3. He doesn't have the political capital to carry these plans out against resistance.

4. Losing NATO means losing almost all power projection in western Eurasia and Africa.

5. Closing borders means losing hard working human capital that was educated and pre filtered at other countries expense and relying on native US talent, a large chunk of which is poor but educated and extremely ideologically motivated against him, the worst combination for stability.

America is definitely waning as an empire and fading slowly but unfortunately bro the NATO alliance still remains an issue and thorn in everyone´s face and the only way to stop NATO is to create another NATO like alliance that is more powerful then NATO if not there won´t be answer to NATO being in everyone´s throat.

What would change if NATO can get contained via another similar but more numerous and more powerfull alliance.

The Fall of Israel, Taiwan would become a reality within a day after NATO gets checked heck Israel won´t be standing a week after that it will get stormed as it was a Travis Scott concert. The US dollar can be unseeded and the creation of one currency and after poverty hits NATO areas then they can get invaded and eliminated.

But there needs to be a credible military alliance in order for that to happen.

Example China alone with a weakened Russia and corpse Iran and kindergarten North Korea won´t have much of a shoot in this dog-fight.

Some members might leave NATO to join the new alliance states like Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria and Greece old Russian brotherly countries. Turkey would be a massive bonus exiting NATO and joining the new alliance but everyone who signs the treaty document has to honor it with his own life and anyone who exits or do not honor the treaty it will cost his life by getting nuked for not honoring the treaty
 
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Temstar

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Trump 2.0, based on all that I've seen so far, is serious about Making America Great Again.

We talk a lot here about how the US is a sinking ship and a collapsing empire. But underneath it all, the US still does have a lot going for it as a country: 1) the vast quantities of untapped resources, 2) its status as the sole financial super power, 3) control over most of the world's software platforms, 4) lack of geopolitical rivals on its side of the world, 5) fairly healthy demographics (relative to other first world countries, that is), 6) a system of allies most of whom are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US, delusional as they are.

The trouble with the Democrats is that, for various ideological reasons, they aren't capitalizing on these advantages. Instead, they're actively pretending like the US is still the super power that it was twenty years ago, where it could afford to be the "defender of the free world" and "promote liberalism wherever it exists." Thus the Democrats are more likely to sacrifice US national interests for the sake of global liberalism, resulting in policies like subsidizing NATO, baiting the Russians into a war, writing blank checks to democratic movements, and so on.

Trump seems a lot smarter about this - and I say this as a person who originally bought into the Democratic propaganda that he was just an orange idiot born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He recognizes the fact that the US is sinking, and that the key to preserving US power is fixing the US's internal problems, not defend the "liberal international order." Indeed, he's ready to sacrifice that order, if it means retaining American national power and preeminence.

Towards this end, a lot of what Trump is doing actually makes sense, and are policies I'd have sooner expected from the more pragmatic Chinese leadership. From stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, to ditching the liberal free riders, to cracking down hard on institutional / bureaucratic rot, to tearing down "cancel culture" & radical feminism & social justice scams, to unleashing the potential of the US's vast natural resources. These are all moves designed to improve the US's competitiveness in the decades to come.

I think if you're really watching, understand what's going on, and want the US to fail, then you should be far more concerned about what Trump is doing than what Biden did. Because ultimately, Biden landed the country in a spot where it had no choice but bet it all on AI to save US hegemony, while Trump is putting the US on a stronger foundation for long-term success, with or without AI. I hope Chinese leaders are ready to dance - Trump 2.0 is looking better than ever.
All of these are window dressing compared to the real problem: 36 trillion in debt and climbing fast. No empire in history has ever dug themselves out of a financial hole like this without reorganizing themselves into something else.

All of those suggestion, even if they could be made to work would only support a country ("USB" as it were) that's a regional power, think Russia but stronger. It will no longer have the comprehensive national strength it has today to be a global superpower. In fact a lot of the very same action (no longer defending rule based order for example) that would strengthen this future USB directly diminishes the current USA's superpower status.
 

jiajia99

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Trump 2.0, based on all that I've seen so far, is serious about Making America Great Again.

We talk a lot here about how the US is a sinking ship and a collapsing empire. But underneath it all, the US still does have a lot going for it as a country: 1) the vast quantities of untapped resources, 2) its status as the sole financial super power, 3) control over most of the world's software platforms, 4) lack of geopolitical rivals on its side of the world, 5) fairly healthy demographics (relative to other first world countries, that is), 6) a system of allies most of whom are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US, delusional as they are.

The trouble with the Democrats is that, for various ideological reasons, they aren't capitalizing on these advantages. Instead, they're actively pretending like the US is still the super power that it was twenty years ago, where it could afford to be the "defender of the free world" and "promote liberalism wherever it exists." Thus the Democrats are more likely to sacrifice US national interests for the sake of global liberalism, resulting in policies like subsidizing NATO, baiting the Russians into a war, writing blank checks to democratic movements, and so on.

Trump seems a lot smarter about this - and I say this as a person who originally bought into the Democratic propaganda that he was just an orange idiot born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He recognizes the fact that the US is sinking, and that the key to preserving US power is fixing the US's internal problems, not defend the "liberal international order." Indeed, he's ready to sacrifice that order, if it means retaining American national power and preeminence.

Towards this end, a lot of what Trump is doing actually makes sense, and are policies I'd have sooner expected from the more pragmatic Chinese leadership. From stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, to ditching the liberal free riders, to cracking down hard on institutional / bureaucratic rot, to tearing down "cancel culture" & radical feminism & social justice scams, to unleashing the potential of the US's vast natural resources. These are all moves designed to improve the US's competitiveness in the decades to come.

I think if you're really watching, understand what's going on, and want the US to fail, then you should be far more concerned about what Trump is doing than what Biden did. Because ultimately, Biden landed the country in a spot where it had no choice but bet it all on AI to save US hegemony, while Trump is putting the US on a stronger foundation for long-term success, with or without AI. I hope Chinese leaders are ready to dance - Trump 2.0 is looking better than ever.
They are ready to dance, because while trump does have ambitions like this, we must also ask, is he up to the task given his age and also to keep in note is that the U.S. economy is not doing too well along with its infrastructure falling apart, but domestic and on an industrial scale that will require more then 4 years to actually fix anything, which isn’t going to be possible to achieve in his lifetime. He has inherited an USA that is literally in a situation where they cannot afford to fight any more wars based on actual weapon stock piles, man power and weapon procurement, it doesn’t matter what he does, he isn’t going to be able to do what he did previously to China because he used up those cards and China has withstood them, now China is in a position to not only cut off weapon materials (they just did that already) but they along with Russia are not just going to let the USA do as it pleases, not to mention threatening to sanction the world like a mafia gangster isn’t going to win Allies moving forward, especially when these Allies Don’t particularly like him nor do they have the industry to aid them like they could in the past. Also the debt is simply beyond any nations ability to repay and the nation with that debt is the USA and USA alone
 
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