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Bellum_Romanum

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We should really stop the delusions that India can somehow be convinced to at least be neutral with China when you have snake charmers like this fella polluting the national discourse about China - the Hindiot even made specious and malicious slander against CHINA's supposed PREDATORY trade and economic practice. While lauding Trump and the U.S. policies as kosher.

 

MelianPretext

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Given that we now have a full term of Trump and Biden as comparison to reflect on, it’s become rather plain that the Trump administration is more dangerous than Biden's for China because Biden’s China strategy became primarily diplomatic isolation and economic suppression while Trump tried to actively bind China into unequal treaties like that “Phase One trade agreement” and manufacturing color revolutions. The Xinjiang atrocity propaganda campaign began under Trump; Trump’s State Department fostered the 2019 Hong Kong color revolution and the anti-China propaganda hysteria that came out of this secured the current Taiwanese ruling party in their re-election;
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(though it should be said that every administration has certainly done this). For all the India-addicts on this thread, I’m sure Trump’s admin had no small part, directly or indirectly though bolstering Modi’s ego via establishing QUAD, in motivating India to incite the Galwan conflict which ended the 2010s Sino-Indian general detente. They went as far as to rope Nepal into that Millennium Compact agreement to attempt to subvert that neighboring country.

Trump and his cabinet, including even robot-boy Rubio if you read that gusano's recent writings on China, show that they understand China’s advantages on a pragmatic level far more than Biden’s administration did. Now that it can be put in retrospect, Biden’s foreign policy can be characterized as the height of American "end-of-history" arrogance, lashing out at every adversary at the same time because they hubristically thought the American empire had the capacity to take on China, Russia and the Middle East all at once. The Ukraine War and the Middle East conflicts that Biden initiated, from a cold realpolitik standpoint, ultimately benefited China and made the “Pivot to Asia” into a meme.

Trump’s plan (so far) for his second term appears to be to retreat America into its own hemisphere, licking its wounds and digging in within its “backyard” in the Americas (literally so in the case of "renaming" the Gulf of Mexico) so that a future administration can make America potentially re-emerge like Roosevelt’s America did in the 20th century. One thing he’s currently hinting at is sacrificing America’s short term hostility against its main adversaries in his own administration (peace in Ukraine and withholding immediate tariffs on China) so that America in a successive presidency can effectively maintain the capability for reigniting long term hostility against them. That is to say, using his administration to attempt to clean up house so that America can eventually re-emerge, with its internal and hemispheric affairs in order, to try to retake the unipolar position of absolute global hegemony once again. If this is the case, it would be quite a forward-thinking agenda and accentuates the danger of his administration by showing that he has the capability to go against the "American presidencies can't do non-instant gratification long-term strategies" stereotype.

For a bigger farce, the Trump admin might even try to propose a “G2” detente to con China into agreements that would help America recover from its manufacturing and technological deficits in the long term. Given that Xi agreed to that Phase One agreement, the Chinese liberal Gorbachev-wannabes lurking within the Chinese government might lobby for cooperation and this may receive some significant public support. This recent XHS moment with all the gushing over American working class (the world's "labor aristocracy") sob stories and the so-called “great reconciliation” on the Chinese domestic internet is revealing there’s a massive portion of Chinese people, just as it was with the Soviet and Russian people, who just want to be noticed by America-senpai above anything else.

With regards to the US imperialist ambitions, which will cause some hilarious hypocrisy as the US seizes new territories while fearmongering about China at the same time, it should be noted that all of his target locations for expansionism have tangible geopolitical benefits and now that he appears serious, it should be not treated as if he’s taking America on some misadventure like wanting to invade Monaco or Tasmania.

The Panama plan is to gain the ability to eventually blackmail China or anyone else with access to the trans-Central American shipping lane. Alongside the new US military bases that will be established in the Galapagos and turning Argentina into a vassal, the US will gain the ability to also block the southern route. Alongside the US military bases in Greenland and subordinating Canada even further, the northern Arctic route is additionally blocked. With all three in conjunction, the US would gain the ability to "legally" shut down sea passage up and down the entire Western Hemisphere.

Trump’s obsession with space, including his “Space Force” military branding gimmick from his first term and his new Musk-inspired plan for Mars seem equally amusing but they demonstrate an understanding that outer space and its resources are the future domain for humanity. While focusing on space may seem wildly premature, these ambitions are laying the groundwork for a medium-term scenario to legitimize the full weaponization of orbital space and a far-future scenario where space colonization is set on Western terms to mirror the way the West has established its dominance by stealing away the Americas and Oceania. The colonization of these three continents secured 500 years of Western supremacy, and with space, the West, unless to destroy a rival’s colonies, does not even need to resort to indigenous genocide to repeat its historical feat.

These plans to "future-proof" America can easily flop, as just because you know the recipe doesn’t mean you can cook the dish, but people should at least understand the pragmatic intent behind the “humorous" Trumpian news headlines. This "watch what I say, not what I do” outrage distraction scheme that many people continually bought hook-line-and-sinker was tedious to see and was the defining gimmick of his first term and it’ll be certainly a mainstay in this one as well.
 
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pmc

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Can you elaborate what you mean by New Europe and how is that gonna be achieved?
look my posts. plenty of info about New Europe. Its a union of Arabic soft Power and Russia hard power. infact those creating such a entity do not want others to know its real objective and geographic boundary limits.
Armenia already there.
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Armenia and Iran sign agreement on construction of 32 km roads for North-South transport corridor project

 

TK3600

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Yeah I find it ironic that for the past five years most of them played along with the deep state vilification of Chinese people (and East Asians in general since they can’t distinguish eye slant angles), leading to Asian Americans being targeted in vicious hate crimes both IRL and online. But now that their favorite toy gets taken away it is hip to learn Mandarin and shit on the political establishment and be pro-PRC? That is just entitled.

It is by the grace of the Chinese people that they demanded a cat tax instead of a pussy tax to join RedNote.
RedNote is not an Indian app.
 

Eventine

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The world is so crazy I think it's possible that Trump will literally just sell off Taiwan to China in exchange for something.

And while there will initial shock, it will be basically accepted without issue. After all Taiwan isn't part of USA anyway and in most people's eyes they can't be bothered to really see Taiwan as significantly different from China anyway.
Trump 2.0, based on all that I've seen so far, is serious about Making America Great Again.

We talk a lot here about how the US is a sinking ship and a collapsing empire. But underneath it all, the US still does have a lot going for it as a country: 1) the vast quantities of untapped resources, 2) its status as the sole financial super power, 3) control over most of the world's software platforms, 4) lack of geopolitical rivals on its side of the world, 5) fairly healthy demographics (relative to other first world countries, that is), 6) a system of allies most of whom are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US, delusional as they are.

The trouble with the Democrats is that, for various ideological reasons, they aren't capitalizing on these advantages. Instead, they're actively pretending like the US is still the super power that it was twenty years ago, where it could afford to be the "defender of the free world" and "promote liberalism wherever it exists." Thus the Democrats are more likely to sacrifice US national interests for the sake of global liberalism, resulting in policies like subsidizing NATO, baiting the Russians into a war, writing blank checks to democratic movements, and so on.

Trump seems a lot smarter about this - and I say this as a person who originally bought into the Democratic propaganda that he was just an orange idiot born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He recognizes the fact that the US is sinking, and that the key to preserving US power is fixing the US's internal problems, not defend the "liberal international order." Indeed, he's ready to sacrifice that order, if it means retaining American national power and preeminence.

Towards this end, a lot of what Trump is doing actually makes sense, and are policies I'd have sooner expected from the more pragmatic Chinese leadership. From stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, to ditching the liberal free riders, to cracking down hard on institutional / bureaucratic rot, to tearing down "cancel culture" & radical feminism & social justice scams, to unleashing the potential of the US's vast natural resources. These are all moves designed to improve the US's competitiveness in the decades to come.

I think if you're really watching, understand what's going on, and want the US to fail, then you should be far more concerned about what Trump is doing than what Biden did. Because ultimately, Biden landed the country in a spot where it had no choice but bet it all on AI to save US hegemony, while Trump is putting the US on a stronger foundation for long-term success, with or without AI. I hope Chinese leaders are ready to dance - Trump 2.0 is looking better than ever.
 

siegecrossbow

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Trump 2.0, based on all that I've seen so far, is serious about Making America Great Again.

We talk a lot here about how the US is a sinking ship and a collapsing empire. But underneath it all, the US still does have a lot going for it as a country: 1) the vast quantities of untapped resources, 2) its status as the sole financial super power, 3) control over most of the world's software platforms, 4) lack of geopolitical rivals on its side of the world, 5) fairly healthy demographics (relative to other first world countries, that is), 6) a system of allies most of whom are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US, delusional as they are.

The trouble with the Democrats is that, for various ideological reasons, they aren't capitalizing on these advantages. Instead, they're actively pretending like the US is still the super power that it was twenty years ago, where it could afford to be the "defender of the free world" and "promote liberalism wherever it exists." Thus the Democrats are more likely to sacrifice US national interests for the sake of global liberalism, resulting in policies like subsidizing NATO, baiting the Russians into a war, writing blank checks to democratic movements, and so on.

Trump seems a lot smarter about this - and I say this as a person who originally bought into the Democratic propaganda that he was just an orange idiot born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He recognizes the fact that the US is sinking, and that the key to preserving US power is fixing the US's internal problems, not defend the "liberal international order." Indeed, he's ready to sacrifice that order, if it means retaining American national power and preeminence.

Towards this end, a lot of what Trump is doing actually makes sense, and are policies I'd have sooner expected from the more pragmatic Chinese leadership. From stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, to ditching the liberal free riders, to cracking down hard on institutional / bureaucratic rot, to tearing down "cancel culture" & radical feminism & social justice scams, to unleashing the potential of the US's vast natural resources. These are all moves designed to improve the US's competitiveness in the decades to come.

I think if you're really watching, understand what's going on, and want the US to fail, then you should be far more concerned about what Trump is doing than what Biden did. Because ultimately, Biden landed the country in a spot where it had no choice but bet it all on AI to save US hegemony, while Trump is putting the US on a stronger foundation for long-term success, with or without AI. I hope Chinese leaders are ready to dance - Trump 2.0 is looking better than ever.

It would be for the best if Trump actually could make America great again this time around. The trouble is if the first term is any indication he is more show than substance.
 

abenomics12345

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. He recognizes the fact that the US is sinking, and that the key to preserving US power is fixing the US's internal problems, not defend the "liberal international order."

I think it is far more likely he just wants to grift as much as he can in the next 4 years and pardon himself. You're already seeing SV billionaires seething (go look at Marc Andreessen's Twitter account these days) about the aboutface on TikTok sale. What you will see the next few years is the complete evisceration of any sense of 'proper conduct' and instead see the in-your-face competition between billionaires for influence and $$.

6) a system of allies most of whom are willing to sacrifice themselves for the US, delusional as they are.

Collapse of the Alliance is a functional dismantling of the Post-Cold War world order and a win in China's book. I think it is likely that the world truly becomes G2/Chimerica type of situation where China is the knife and America is the cutting board - everyone else is just meat/veggies to be chopped up.

From stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, to ditching the liberal free riders, to cracking down hard on institutional / bureaucratic rot, to cracking down on "cancel culture" & radical feminism & social justice scams,

What you are saying (which I agree with) is just as likely as having some redpilled incel lighting up fires in LA during the *real* fire season - Luigi won't be the last one - all it takes is one fed up Ex-SEAL and their mom/kids healthcare insurance claims rejected to have more of that. The redpilled kids that @siegecrossbow is showing are reading On Contradictions - they will get to On Protracted War soon.
 
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