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Arcgem

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Yes ok. Then US retaliates by further targeting Chinese industrial capacity to end China’s ability to supply those attacks against Us bases.

Even under that scenario, the damages will still be limited to the 2nd island chain. Most of the destruction will be around Asia.
All of this speculation on your part is pointless when there is no reason to believe the US would risk equivalent retaliation by attacking Chinese industries in the first place.
 

manqiangrexue

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Yes ok. Then US retaliates by further targeting Chinese industrial capacity to end China’s ability to supply those attacks against Us bases.

Even under that scenario, the damages will still be limited to the 2nd island chain. Most of the destruction will be around Asia.
China knows what you know and it knows that a limited war in Asia is extremely beneficial to the US. Taiwan is the matter on which China cannot back down from so if the US begins to successfully strike the Chinese mainland to take out the Chinese industrial capacity, China's choice is to lose or escalate into a nuclear conflict and strike all over the US. China can't lose a conflict over Taiwan even if the world has to end.

The US should know too that if it strikes the Chinese industrial base, then it's all out war. No holds barred; striking at another countries' factories is not the same as attacking their military assets in a contained conflict. China will not allow itself to be in a situation where it is taking such damage without inflicting damage back when they have the ability to strike back so the US should know that if you launch missile strikes on the Chinese mainland, you might as well just lob nukes because that's what's likely to come back.

If a Taiwan conflict doesn't evolve into all out nuclear war, it's likely to remain contained to attacking each other's military assets that are on missions.
 

azuazu

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I think Mr. Vladimir Vladimirovich gave the best answer to this conundrum: “Any attacking missile (headed towards Russian territory) will be perceived as carrying a nuclear warhead.”

No need to wait for the results, go straight to the Second Strike. After all, does anyone seriously trust the Americans to stick to conventional warheads in an all out war?
 

quantumlight

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I think Mr. Vladimir Vladimirovich gave the best answer to this conundrum: “Any attacking missile (headed towards Russian territory) will be perceived as carrying a nuclear warhead.”

No need to wait for the results, go straight to the Second Strike. After all, does anyone seriously trust the Americans to stick to conventional warheads in an all out war?
This is why Editor Hu said China needs at least 1000 active deployed nukes, and 100 DF41 asap... he predicted US will nuclear blackmale China that its just matter of time...

America will never recover from its top 10 cities getting glassed

China should build more underground tunnels and shelters while concrete, steel, energy is still relatively cheap
 

Temstar

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观棋有语 is back after one week break (what they refer to on the show as "changing the fuel rods on the nuclear powered donkey") and there's some juicy info:
  • the campaign against H&M went unexpectedly well in government's view. After applying just a little bit of pressure H&M is on its knees and have submitted several proposal to the government regarding its position on Xinjiang cotton. All the meanwhile there were very little counter offensive from the west in response. The government have made a decision to not accept H&M's surrender and instead will go for the old "kill the chicken to warn the monkey" strategy, with H&M being the chicken
  • related to the H&M campaign, western intelligence have picked up on the fact that the internet savvy youth of China do not buy the narrative from the west. There were no signs that the youth believed any of the "Xinjiang forced labour to pick cotton" narrative and instead have overwhelmingly supported CPC and have actively participated in boycott
  • regarding the photo of USS Mustin and Liaoning, generally carrier and escort will not drive a warship from different country away unless they are in the middle of exercise and therefore have the risk of accidentally firing on that ship. Liaoning was not doing anything of the sort so there was no need to drive USS Mustin away. USN would act similarly if the role was reversed too. The crew are also very confused why USN would try to do a freedom of navigation exercise in Indian Ocean at this time
  • regarding Turkey which have both made some rude gestures at China as well as EU, the gang have no idea why they are acting up at this time, it may be that Turkey is suffering some internal problem and need to redirect attention externally
  • regarding Iran, China is mostly in favour of US removing sanctions on Iran because some of the sanctions actually affect China too (eg: Meng Wanzhou), to that end should Iran seek Mr Su's oppinon he would say "don't stir up Biden, let him to his thing, if you have to respond respond directly to Israel covertly"
  • the gang thing the US infrastructure plan is a bit of a joke. Mr Su points out that if a real estate agent president can't get the US to properly build a stretch of wall then Biden has no chance to get them to build some proper roads either
 

quantumlight

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freedom of navigation
Freedom of navigation is like free trade... its a cover for the reigning hegemony to assert its dominance in the pecking order and to reserve the right to clamp down when the maintain that "freedom" no longer serves its interest...

How long has US been yapping at free trade, look what it did to Huawei, and the TSMC situation... and they dare accuse China of forced knowledge transfer? What about those six fabs in Arizona??

Bottom line the US is messing around in SCS because it wants to preserve its "right" to naval blockade China in time of war.... there are no other reasons... its as much about freedom as Operation Iraqi Freedom
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Yes ok. Then US retaliates by further targeting Chinese industrial capacity to end China’s ability to supply those attacks against Us bases.

Even under that scenario, the damages will still be limited to the 2nd island chain. Most of the destruction will be around Asia.
Warfare is the most unpredictable of all human activities. The fact that you're so confident with your pronouncements lead me to believe that you're smoking some hot air. Sure, the American strategic planners at the Pentagon has wargamed or planned every contingencies to achieve whatever political objectives the U.S. policy makers desire, but you seem to forget that no matter how beautiful or sound your war plans are, the enemy, and in this case China/CPC/PLA gets a f..ng say and vote. And to assume erroneously that China will fold or American fighters will be able to mop up Chinese economic sectors without much resistance smacks of hubris and unfounded confidence. Tell me, when did America fight an adversary that's almost or at the same level of parity?

Most importantly, war is also a battle of will, do you actually assume for a f..ng nanosecond that China and the Chinese people will simply fold or pressure their government once their country is being bombed to kingdom come? How about the American psyche that's largely been spoiled of their fake successes in the battlefield and has developed this myopic and dangerous views that any war with any nation will be easy pickings. They have swallowed this mantra of greatest nation on earth Kool aid for far too long that if they suffer casualties in the thousands would they not protest their government? Come on dude.
 
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