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fishrubber99

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I just searched "economics" in youtube, and youtube suggested this 1st:


The conclusion in the video (that China somehow overcounted their economic growth by 10%) has already been "debunked" (and not even debunked, if the Bloomberg journalist actually read the original article they would've known that the 10% figure was taken out of context) here:


In summary, the original article was positing Chinese economic growth by basing their assumptions off of the composition of China's economy before its property bubble burst. Of course these assumptions (such as how much employment drives economic growth, investment vs consumption share of economy and its relationship with economic growth) are gonna be different after the property bubble burst since China is shifting to high-tech industry as a main driver of economic growth now (which is less capital and investment intensive than large infrastructure and construction projects). You can read the original article here which the Bloomberg journalists are taking out of context:
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jiajia99

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China's economy had seen better times. The global economy is not doing great. And things are definitely not well in America. Black Friday isn't what it used to be anymore.



Biden and Trump both messed up the economy. Trump 1.0 started the trade war, so he definitely has a hand in this. Yet Trump 2.0 wants to double down on the trade war. So things are gonna get even more interesting for America.
Thank frig I am not in the USA right now, I mean where I lam at right now might not be so hot but at least the Black Friday sale there is full house with very difficult to find parking at all hours. This place is just two steps away from ‘the domestics’, ‘the purge’ or even a typical zombie movie minus the zombies. Trump is going to utter destroy the USA once he gets in, I mean think of the resources China will save from not selling to a nation that simply cannot pay anything back.
 

Sardaukar20

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Tucker went back to Russia this time to interview Sergey Lavrov.

“Is there any way to peel Russia back from the East, from the sphere of China, back into the west”

China Hawks asking Russia to come back so they can backstab them again in the future.

Tucker: Hey Lavrov, Russia's destiny is with us the West, not with China. How can we get Russia to come back to the West?

Lavrov: I've been a foreign minister for 20 years already. We have had so many so-called "Resets" already. Bush Jr., Obama, Trump, and now Trump again. What makes you think it'll be any different now?

Tucker: Because this time, Trump is gonna be serious.

Lavrov: How serious?

Tucker: He is gonna offer to stop the Ukraine War immediately. Ukraine will not join NATO for 20 years. If Russia agrees to this deal, Trump is willing to lift sanctions.

Lavrov: *Chuckles* First of all, we don't want to stop the SMO now. We are on course to achieve our objectives, and we are not gonna stop now over some flimsy promise. You said that Trump wants to suspend Ukraine's ascension to NATO for 20 years. Trump won't be around after 4 years. Who is gonna keep that promise after that? And why would Russia agree to this if we could end the threat of Ukraine's ascension to NATO permanently? Lastly, you want us to agree to that kind of deal, so that we Russians can get Pizza Hut and Apple again? You need to do a lot better than that.

Tucker: *Stunned* Why won't you agree to that deal? Its a very generous deal!

Lavrov: Generous? What's so generous about that deal? We pause the SMO to our disadvantage, and we only delay Ukraine's ascension to NATO. You must think of us as fools for accepting such a deal! We have lost count on the amount of times you the West have reneged on deals and agreements. We Russians have long memories. You have given us very little reason to trust you.

Tucker: But you would trust President Xi and the CCP?

Lavrov: They have earned our trust over the decades. Yes, we have a high level of trust with them.

Tucker: But aren't you concerned that they would betray you? The Chinese are greedy and they want your resources! They want to take Siberia!

Lavrov: *Laughs* Based on whose imagination? Yours? Yes they want some of our resources, and they're buying them from us. We are doing great business with them. It is you the West who had been stealing from us. You stole our money in your banks. It is you the West who had waged numerous wars against us to take our lands and resources. One of your Republican senator, Lindsey Graham had said that Ukraine is a gold mine of minerals for you Americans. You're projecting your evil intentions onto China. But we Russians can see the reality. We have no problems with China. Instead, we are very good friends.

Tucker: But...but... The Chinese are evil, greedy, cheating, godless scoundrels! You just cannot trust them!

Lavrov: I have already explained our position. Do you have other questions? Otherwise, I have better things to do.

Tucker: Alright. Let's talk about the Middle East....
 

mossen

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Have China build India and then they drop China and run to the West when they've gotten everything they want.
They won't get it. China understands that India is fundamentally a Western pawn.

India also does not have the technical know-how present in the country to copy China. Their mfg sector is completely dead.

Their overall economy isn't doing great either.

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What happens when AI starts to outperform humans in low-end IT services? That's India's bread and butter. They have no other major sector that can help them.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Tucker: Hey Lavrov, Russia's destiny is with us the West, not with China. How can we get Russia to come back to the West?

Lavrov: I've been a foreign minister for 20 years already. We have had so many so-called "Resets" already. Bush Jr., Obama, Trump, and now Trump again. What makes you think it'll be any different now?

Tucker: Because this time, Trump is gonna be serious.

Lavrov: How serious?

Tucker: He is gonna offer to stop the Ukraine War immediately. Ukraine will not join NATO for 20 years. If Russia agrees to this deal, Trump is willing to lift sanctions.

Lavrov: *Chuckles* First of all, we don't want to stop the SMO now. We are on course to achieve our objectives, and we are not gonna stop now over some flimsy promise. You said that Trump wants to suspend Ukraine's ascension to NATO for 20 years. Trump won't be around after 4 years. Who is gonna keep that promise after that? And why would Russia agree to this if we could end the threat of Ukraine's ascension to NATO permanently? Lastly, you want us to agree to that kind of deal, so that we Russians can get Pizza Hut and Apple again? You need to do a lot better than that.

Tucker: *Stunned* Why won't you agree to that deal? Its a very generous deal!

Lavrov: Generous? What's so generous about that deal? We pause the SMO to our disadvantage, and we only delay Ukraine's ascension to NATO. You must think of us as fools for accepting such a deal! We have lost count on the amount of times you the West have reneged on deals and agreements. We Russians have long memories. You have given us very little reason to trust you.

Tucker: But you would trust President Xi and the CCP?

Lavrov: They have earned our trust over the decades. Yes, we have a high level of trust with them.

Tucker: But aren't you concerned that they would betray you? The Chinese are greedy and they want your resources! They want to take Siberia!

Lavrov: *Laughs* Based on whose imagination? Yours? Yes they want some of our resources, and they're buying them from us. We are doing great business with them. It is you the West who had been stealing from us. You stole our money in your banks. It is you the West who had waged numerous wars against us to take our lands and resources. One of your Republican senator, Lindsey Graham had said that Ukraine is a gold mine of minerals for you Americans. You're projecting your evil intentions onto China. But we Russians can see the reality. We have no problems with China. Instead, we are very good friends.

Tucker: But...but... The Chinese are evil, greedy, cheating, godless scoundrels! You just cannot trust them!

Lavrov: I have already explained our position. Do you have other questions? Otherwise, I have better things to do.

Tucker: Alright. Let's talk about the Middle East....
Is this an actual transcript of the interview or you just made a believable fiction?
 
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